Click here to visit LS1Tech
Click here to visit Performance Trucks
Click here to visit Mod Motor Tech
Click here to visit Modern Hemi

PerformanceTrucks.net Forums  

Go Back   PerformanceTrucks.net Forums > GENERAL MOTORS SPECIFIC FORUMS > GM Drivetrain & Suspension
Sign in using an external account
Register Forgot Password?
Register Albums FAQ Members Calendar Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read Vendor DirectoryUsed CarsGarageStore
Welcome to PerformanceTrucks.net Forums

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 01-26-2005, 05:04 PM   #1
Trader Rating: 28
Corn-fed grocery getter
 
TX Tahoe Z71's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Houston, Texas
Posts: 3,705
Question How to install torsion bar keys?

I want to level out my Tahoe, and I looked around the site and came to the general conclusion that keys are going to give me better ride quality than cranking down the torsion bars. But does anyone know how to install them or can point me to a site with pics or diagrams? Any insight or opinions would also be appreciated.
__________________
2003 Tahoe Z71 5.3 FlexFuel: Radix MP112 10psi, GT2-3 cam, CTS-V h/e, LPP LT's, Walbro 450, FIC 75#'ers, Wheatley E85 tune, Century Stage 4 4L60E, 300mm 2400 Circle D, '05 fans, 22" Magnaflow, Hotchkis sways, panhard bar, trailing arms, Edelbrock IAS, 3.73s, Yukon LSD, hydroboost, '07 brakes
TX Tahoe Z71 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-26-2005, 05:31 PM   #2
Trader Rating: 0
Teching In
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Houston/Dallas
Posts: 34
Send a message via AIM to Dark Eternal
Default

First off new keys are no difference than cranking your bars, will give you the exact same ride.

Read this: http://homepage.mac.com/darketernal/TBT.html
__________________
2001 Z71 5.3 - 1 ton SFA conversion
-Dana 60 front, 14 bolt rear, detroit and 5.13s
-42" TSLs on 16.5x12 Double beadlocks
-ASM longtubes, UPD intake, Dynomax Bullet, Nelson Tune
Dark Eternal is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-26-2005, 06:17 PM   #3
Trader Rating: 17
10 Second Club
 
04BlackGmc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: STL
Posts: 3,412
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Eternal
First off new keys are no difference than cranking your bars, will give you the exact same ride.

Read this: http://homepage.mac.com/darketernal/TBT.html
i thought you could get a max of maybe 1.5.......

But the ford keys you get 2.
__________________

2009 G8 GT-Procharged/Cammed10.55@134.3 1.60 SOLD
2008 C6 A6-Cammed/Stall 10.62@126.7 1.44' SOLD
2010 Denali Sierra AWD 6.2-Bolt ons,Leveled,24's
1980 Malibu-Project
04BlackGmc is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 01-26-2005, 06:35 PM   #4
Trader Rating: 0
TECH Regular
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Da 'Cuse, NY
Posts: 487
Default

Yes, you'll get the extra height w/ keys, but the ride will be the same as cranking your bars (or worse if you crank the Ford keys too much).
__________________
'11 Synergy Green Camaro SS/RS-M6-Kooks 1-7/8 LTs-Borla Stinger CB-20x10/20x11 FR41s-Edelbrock TVS2300-other odds n ends

'06 PBM GTO-M6-H/C/I-other stuff-SOLD

'00 AW WS6-M6-bolt-ons-SOLD
FryZ71 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-26-2005, 07:45 PM   #5
Trader Rating: 18
TECH Addict
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: WI
Posts: 2,247
Default

http://www.fullsizechevy.com/forums/...ad.php?t=65871


Everything you need to know and more.
__________________
'02 Sierra Denali AWD & Quadrasteer
SOLD'07 GMC Sierra 2500 EC 4x4, DuraMax LBZ
SOLD 03' Silverado ECSB 4x4 5.7 LS1 & 6.0 LQ9, Patriot 243 Stg 1, TR230/224,31lbs injectors, Vette Servo,Trailblazer stall, Corsa touring,180*, HP Tuners
SOLD - 99' Silverado ECSB 4x4 5.3, 285 Terra Grappler, LT1 fans,Edelbrock RPM muffler, 02' TSP Tune
Zick is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-26-2005, 07:54 PM   #6
Trader Rating: 18
TECH Addict
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: WI
Posts: 2,247
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Eternal
First off new keys are no difference than cranking your bars, will give you the exact same ride.

Read this: http://homepage.mac.com/darketernal/TBT.html
Now normally I wouldn't disagree with you, because I've read you posts on Fullsizechevy and know you know what your talking about. So don't take this the wrong way.

Some truck may need the keys like mine did. When I got my truck my stock keys where already cranked all the way and the front still sat lower than the rear. I'd say it came from the factory like that.

So my only option was to get the Ford keys. After putting them in and cranking them up only 1/4 of the way I'll already gained about 2" in height. If I cranked these all the way up, I could seriously get about 4" total out of them.

And just the 2" of lift made my ride a little stiffer but definatly not rough.
__________________
'02 Sierra Denali AWD & Quadrasteer
SOLD'07 GMC Sierra 2500 EC 4x4, DuraMax LBZ
SOLD 03' Silverado ECSB 4x4 5.7 LS1 & 6.0 LQ9, Patriot 243 Stg 1, TR230/224,31lbs injectors, Vette Servo,Trailblazer stall, Corsa touring,180*, HP Tuners
SOLD - 99' Silverado ECSB 4x4 5.3, 285 Terra Grappler, LT1 fans,Edelbrock RPM muffler, 02' TSP Tune
Zick is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-26-2005, 08:36 PM   #7
Trader Rating: 17
10 Second Club
 
04BlackGmc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: STL
Posts: 3,412
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zick
Now normally I wouldn't disagree with you, because I've read you posts on Fullsizechevy and know you know what your talking about. So don't take this the wrong way.

Some truck may need the keys like mine did. When I got my truck my stock keys where already cranked all the way and the front still sat lower than the rear. I'd say it came from the factory like that.

So my only option was to get the Ford keys. After putting them in and cranking them up only 1/4 of the way I'll already gained about 2" in height. If I cranked these all the way up, I could seriously get about 4" total out of them.

And just the 2" of lift made my ride a little stiffer but definatly not rough.
man your making me want them more and more..
__________________

2009 G8 GT-Procharged/Cammed10.55@134.3 1.60 SOLD
2008 C6 A6-Cammed/Stall 10.62@126.7 1.44' SOLD
2010 Denali Sierra AWD 6.2-Bolt ons,Leveled,24's
1980 Malibu-Project
04BlackGmc is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 01-26-2005, 09:50 PM   #8
Trader Rating: 0
Launching!
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Houston
Posts: 235
Default

No difference in ride quality between the two.
Every truck is different, some come from the factory with more room for adjustment then others. I got an 1.25" from cranking(and still have room for more) which is just about what I was looking for. I actually like the ride after better then before. Firmed it up alot but not really to the point of being overly stiff, and a whole lot less body roll.
__________________
2001 Dodge quadcab/longbed 2500 - gauges, rv275 injectors, intake, straight piped

Future mods - FASS, Edge comp
165K miles
02-4.8 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-26-2005, 11:24 PM   #9
Trader Rating: 0
On The Tree
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Madisonville, Ky
Posts: 122
Default

The Ford keys just allow you to crank your bars more than the stock keys, ride is determined on how much pressure your bars have on them. I went straight to Ford keys on my '01, and gained about 1 3/4", I have room for a little more to go up, but the ride would be bone-shattering. My control arms are about 1/4" from being on the down travel stop and i'm sure my shocks are pretty much maxed out now. The thing about mine is, it sits level and is right at the limit to being as high as it can go. Every truck is different for sure! The ride is not bad now, actually handles in the curves a lot better.


GregM
GregM is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-26-2005, 11:33 PM   #10
Trader Rating: 28
Corn-fed grocery getter
 
TX Tahoe Z71's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Houston, Texas
Posts: 3,705
Question More questions

I am looking to level the truck out and I'm sticking with the stock tires for now. How many turns should I start out with, is it like 1/10" per turn or 1/2"? Also, will the bolt stop if it gets too tight, or can I unknowingly overtighten them? And, how long does it take for the front end to settle after adjustment? Thanks for all of the help so far, that just saved me $120 I was about to drop for the keys and labor!
__________________
2003 Tahoe Z71 5.3 FlexFuel: Radix MP112 10psi, GT2-3 cam, CTS-V h/e, LPP LT's, Walbro 450, FIC 75#'ers, Wheatley E85 tune, Century Stage 4 4L60E, 300mm 2400 Circle D, '05 fans, 22" Magnaflow, Hotchkis sways, panhard bar, trailing arms, Edelbrock IAS, 3.73s, Yukon LSD, hydroboost, '07 brakes
TX Tahoe Z71 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-26-2005, 11:33 PM
PerformanceTrucks
Ford F150




Paid Advertisement
Reply

Tags
03, 1995, 2004, bar, bars, darketernal, fullsizechevy, gmfs, images, install, keys, tahoe, torsion, tortion, z71


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:01 AM.

 



Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
SEO by vBSEO ©2010, Crawlability, Inc.

PerformanceTrucks.net and InternetBrands, Inc. are not affiliated with the Ford Motor Company