well i guess its my turn my final part for the motor showed up so ill start my thread.
rick @ synergy will be partaking in the turbos and 80e. this setup will be similar to marks(2004 denali) build.
so far motor specs are as follows.
lsx gmpp block (head bolts will be 1/2 inch with the 6 bolt heads)
trickflow 235 cc 6 bolt heads with inconel exhaust valves and .650 lift springs
callies 4.00 x 6.125 rod 2.100 journal dragonslayer crank
lunati pro billet 6.125 i beam connecting rods w 225,000 psi bolts
diamond 4.125 custom coated pistons
morel ls1 hydraulic lifters
yella terra ultralite rockers
asp damper
still undeceided on an intake manifold. but here are some pics of parts
built408
02-27-2009, 08:14 PM
terd in the making
j/k looks good, e/t goals???
SuperchargedSS
02-27-2009, 08:24 PM
damn, my favorite SS just got badder!
03ssilverado
02-27-2009, 08:39 PM
No way. thats going to be sick. r you going to post this on SSS.com?? as well.
stock48
02-27-2009, 09:09 PM
Very nice parts! No shortcuts there.
Nevada79
02-27-2009, 10:22 PM
Going to be an awesome build. If you keep showing this many pics of the entire build this thread will be incredible. That SS is going to be unbeatable!:D
TurboBerserker
02-27-2009, 11:17 PM
Nice choices Chase!
You better let me get mine running first lol
2004SSS
02-27-2009, 11:53 PM
our trucks should be very similar erik. except the drivetrain. which i think will be a challenge as well for me.
the transmission had always been the limitation on the awd trucks. i think with a built 80e the other weak spots will show. im just hoping the front diff can hold because there isnt much i can do to add stregnth there.
my goals are a bit high but hopefully attainable, 1000awhp and 10's with ease. low 10's would be awesome and maybe for shits and giggles ill put it on a diet and see what happens.
2004RST
02-28-2009, 12:57 AM
i get a hardon lookin at those heads...can't wait to see how a baddddd truck can get even badder!!!:judge: SUBSCRIBE :judge:
UBLUZIN03
02-28-2009, 06:41 AM
Looks awsome...subscribed! What happened to the last set up?
larsy87
02-28-2009, 08:59 AM
Sickkk!!!!
TurboBerserker
02-28-2009, 09:01 AM
our trucks should be very similar erik. except the drivetrain. which i think will be a challenge as well for me.
the transmission had always been the limitation on the awd trucks. i think with a built 80e the other weak spots will show. im just hoping the front diff can hold because there isnt much i can do to add stregnth there.
my goals are a bit high but hopefully attainable, 1000awhp and 10's with ease. low 10's would be awesome and maybe for shits and giggles ill put it on a diet and see what happens.
I spent a lot of back and forth with some very knowledgeable tranny guys when I put my 80 in. They told me the next weak link would be the transfer case, and that they'd seen some very ugly samples out of 500hp trucks, and that since they can't be beefed up OR repaired, they would be my headache. That was my primary motivation for switching to 2WD.
On the other hand, the guy that bought my AWD transfer case did it so he had spares :) That's an alternate route.
Lemme tell ya... 1000AWHP is going to be easy with your build. 10's will still be fun to go after as traction will still be a challenge with that power with the AWD. You will likely be in the 1100 to 1200 ft/lb range -- woooooooooooooooo :)
2004SSS
02-28-2009, 02:44 PM
yeah lets hope the case can stay together . i have also thought of going to the 4wd case with selectable drives. that way i can do burnouts as well. my cam specs look very similar to yours too erik. im sure i will be talking with you a bunch on this setup.
the old setup is actually still in the truck . the motor is being pulled in the next couple of weeks , the head gaskets need to be replaced and hopefully that is all, which i think it is since it runs fine. just trying to find a buyer for everything nitrous/engine/blower/trans.
1Bear
02-28-2009, 04:02 PM
I just hope your truck doesn't get burnt to the ground like Mark's. I don't know if we could take that again. Such an amazing build going to waist.:barf: On a positive note, I'm eager to see the outcome of another great build.
supersub
02-28-2009, 05:19 PM
Hold on for one hell of a ride! Nice build up chase!
53RUSSELL
02-28-2009, 05:27 PM
Why I-beam rods over h-beam rods?? Isn't h-beam rods stronger than I-beam rods??
2004SSS
02-28-2009, 09:26 PM
Why I-beam rods over h-beam rods?? Isn't h-beam rods stronger than I-beam rods??
no not always, the h beams are in most cases alot heavier . another thing is the material they are made from .
these rods are rated @ 1250 hp and are pretty lightweight so im sure they will work just fine.
usually the next best rod from here is an aluminum i beam rod which are in the 2000 hp range but are also in the 3k price range and have a limited life of about 50 passes before they need to be checked and or replaced .
im sure there are more pros' and cons but when researching rods this is what i came up with .
Very nice. Going to certainly get you into the 10's and possibly the top SSS spot on the list. I would still consider finding a frame setup from an 8600GVWR truck. I've found the whole trucks used for 3k or less on occasion as old work trucks. That would let you use a selectable and stronger transfercase that fully locks, a 4L80E would be a bolt in, the 9.25" front diff would bolt in for an option to an E-Locker, and a 9.5" 14 bolt rear diff. You could sell your 65E, transfercase, 4.10 gear diff's, and frame to make up for the cost. A selectable transfercase that will fully lock will be a big gain alone. Being able to heat some slicks or drag radials fully will help the rear tires alot in hooking especially since they get the most of the weight transfer.
Wilde Racing
03-03-2009, 08:27 PM
About time you started this thread.....
2004SSS
03-03-2009, 08:43 PM
Very nice. Going to certainly get you into the 10's and possibly the top SSS spot on the list. I would still consider finding a frame setup from an 8600GVWR truck. I've found the whole trucks used for 3k or less on occasion as old work trucks. That would let you use a selectable and stronger transfercase that fully locks, a 4L80E would be a bolt in, the 9.25" front diff would bolt in for an option to an E-Locker, and a 9.5" 14 bolt rear diff. You could sell your 65E, transfercase, 4.10 gear diff's, and frame to make up for the cost. A selectable transfercase that will fully lock will be a big gain alone. Being able to heat some slicks or drag radials fully will help the rear tires alot in hooking especially since they get the most of the weight transfer.
thats not a bad idea, just switching to an 8 lug will kind of suck . i love my wheels and brakes.
not to mention the weight it will add. im trying to get this thing on a diet if anything.
im also still looking into changing transfercases to a selectable 4wd unit . whats different from the 1/2 ton 4wd t case to the 3/4 ton?
blkssncpt
03-03-2009, 09:06 PM
well Chase lik i told u saturday i cant wait to see it once finished!!!!! gonna be sick!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
-Rob
ZZebes
03-04-2009, 12:43 AM
thats not a bad idea, just switching to an 8 lug will kind of suck . i love my wheels and brakes.
not to mention the weight it will add. im trying to get this thing on a diet if anything.
im also still looking into changing transfercases to a selectable 4wd unit . whats different from the 1/2 ton 4wd t case to the 3/4 ton?
they made a 9.5" 14 bolt with 6 lug, also if you use the bigger front diff you could have custom CV's made to mate up
silver-mod-o
03-04-2009, 12:58 AM
I'm sure Moser os Strange could help you with the front axle hurdle... For a price :)
krambo
03-04-2009, 07:18 AM
On the other hand, the guy that bought my AWD transfer case did it so he had spares :) That's an alternate route.
Hmmmm, I wonder who that was :hmmm:
Chase, somebody has to find the limits...when it breaks, build it stronger. That is my credo for my build...when the 65E lets go, the 80E will replace it...when the T-case lets go,. well you get the idea.
Anyway, Awesome parts selection. Keep the pictures flowing, I think I speak for everyone when I say we are going to enjoy watching this build come together! :chug:
OnyxSilveradoSS
03-04-2009, 08:41 AM
I think Zippy is a mad man! building it like that and you could beat the piss out of it. guys just keep rasing the bar.
TurboBerserker
03-04-2009, 08:52 AM
I've got a 9.5" 14bolt and 6 lug wheels :)
Just match the rear housing to the frame and get 6 lug axles. Brakes might be a pita, but at the end of the day, you can always have a nascar machine shop make a custom set of rear rotors for you. :cry: :lol:
8ALTNG
03-04-2009, 02:15 PM
if you need some rear axles I just happen to have an extra set of Strange 40 spline Pro Drag axles with a 5x4 3/4 bolt pattern and 5/8ths studs. really cheap :( :( :(
GMracer
03-04-2009, 02:52 PM
10bolt brakes will mate up to the 14b, some of them just need a spacer to push the backing plate out.
2004SSS
03-04-2009, 07:13 PM
i think therear swap would be easy for this drivetrain . but the rear end is the last thing i think will break . i bet the case or the front diff goes first. i guess im the guinea pig for this .
ZR1 DREAMING
03-07-2009, 09:06 PM
Nice sounding set-up Chase. Looks to be a spendy but quality project.
What are you ideas for manifolds?
2004SSS
03-07-2009, 09:43 PM
Stainless tubular is the plan. I like the saying cheap,reliable and fast you can only have twwo
Spoolin
03-18-2009, 07:29 PM
What's the latest Chase? Any news?
laynlow77
03-18-2009, 11:32 PM
man oh man... this is gonna be fun
JAVI05
03-19-2009, 02:07 PM
wow!! nice truck and killer engine.. cant wait to see this running. this truck is gonna have real flames coming out of the fenders~!!!
2004SSS
03-20-2009, 12:08 AM
my engine builder is lagging , the block is at a shop in diego getting decked and head bolt holes drilled and tapped for the 1/2 studs.
im really not in a huge hurry because the lack of a place to pull the old motor and drop the new. not to mention summer is pretty much here and working on it in the day will suck . but you can bet your ass ill install it where ever it is as soon as i get the motor in hand.
ill post pictures of the motor assembly once the block is local.
JaymzSS
03-20-2009, 06:01 PM
Good Luck chase
Can't wait to see your time :)
Wyttrash96
04-04-2009, 01:16 PM
Hmm, I thought Midnightrider was taking over the top spot of the guy who I'd most wanna be when I grow up, but I missed this. Any news? That thing is gonna be retarded.
twolow02fransen
04-05-2009, 12:26 AM
chase your truck and usbodyguards are by far my two favs on here goin to be a bad ride when its done even though it allready is :chug:
supersub
04-05-2009, 12:31 AM
Clearancing the A/c Bracket is required for the LSX blocks.I bought a new one and fitted it before the install,kinda made it a smoother setting it in the saddle.
2004SSS
04-07-2009, 08:43 PM
good to know , did you install it on the block before drop in?
progress on this is the engine will be ready by the end of the month.
supersub
04-07-2009, 08:50 PM
yep. Bought a new bracket from gm then started fitting it the upper rear bolt location interfeared with the additional head bolt boss,webbing behind the a/c bracket needed to be removed.
your pistons look familiar :thumb:
:metoo:
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c98/Fu_Manchu_Biker/DSCF1321.jpg
Nice build cant wait to see it done!
2004SSS
04-10-2009, 08:56 PM
thanks guys , btw 408 what was you compression with those?
sss408
04-13-2009, 01:51 PM
it was about 9.2:1 with slightly thicker head gaskets and 243's, when i get my new rings and better rods/crank ill get some ported 317's or something i want closer so 8.7:1, haven't done the math on how big CC i need to go that low though.
2004SSS
05-09-2009, 07:55 PM
not my turbos but somthing else there will be used
That intake is beautiful! Really the whole package is, but if were only to look at the intake, that's what I'll comment on.......LOL
Spoolin
05-09-2009, 10:05 PM
Saw that on Tech...that thing is $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$.
I was thinking about getting one too but that's too rich for my blood!!
CHEVRACER83
05-10-2009, 02:03 AM
damn chase!!! that thing was sick before, now i dunno what to say about it.... just absolutely nuts
2004SSS
05-10-2009, 02:44 AM
Saw that on Tech...that thing is $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$.
I was thinking about getting one too but that's too rich for my blood!!
for the price i got it for its definatly affordable . hit me up i may be able to get another one . he said he had one more coming in he may be able to let go of since the other guy is goiing with a manifold mount blower .
zippy
05-10-2009, 10:39 AM
Very nice. Very expensive, but very nice.
2004SSS
05-10-2009, 02:55 PM
thanks guys , as soon as i have the motor in i plan to drive it around and make one of the so cal meets before she gets torn down again
blkssncpt
05-10-2009, 08:55 PM
thanks guys , as soon as i have the motor in i plan to drive it around and make one of the so cal meets before she gets torn down again
think u'll have it in by the 23 if this month??? kinda doubt but u never know...
-Rob
2004SSS
05-10-2009, 11:03 PM
rob i doubt the motor will be done by then . i wont be able to make it down to the spot . ill be in havasu .
blkssncpt
05-10-2009, 11:12 PM
rob i doubt the motor will be done by then . i wont be able to make it down to the spot . ill be in havasu .
oh yeah thats right forgot about that well eitherway whe it's in we're gonna have to meet up again, maybe another speedzone meet???
-Rob
2004SSS
05-12-2009, 10:35 PM
short block is done!!!
waiting on head gaskets and trying to find a set of tie bar morel lifters. we may go with a dual roller timing chain , im still uncertain .
shows the callies dragonslayer, lunati pro billets
DAMN lovin the studs... that should help keep the heads on....
2004SSS
05-15-2009, 10:43 PM
i really hope it keeps the heads down , i think it will do just fine as long as i keep the timing in check id like to see 20+ @ the track
now im trying to come up with some ideas for the new fuel setup. im thinking dual bosch 420 pumps in a surge tank being fed by the dual walbro setup ( lol 4 fuel pumps ). im thinking of what to do with injectors as well. most likly a low imp driver will be needed with some xxx injectors. anyone have any good ideas?
2004SSS
05-19-2009, 11:51 PM
thanks for the replies guys, this is what helps me do this a couple more parts to add
also switching to a complete hydroboost setup. squeezing every last ounch of hp out of this
twolow02fransen
05-19-2009, 11:56 PM
those look like some damn expensive lifters you got there ive never even heard of'em before btw the motor looks killer i would think with those parts in the bottom end its good for at least 20lbs of boost :devil:
jnewnam88
05-20-2009, 03:57 PM
BUMP!!!!! This truck is sweet man hopefully i can see it when you get done hitting up those streets.
2004SSS
05-20-2009, 09:10 PM
i said moal lifters i mis-typed, i meant moral tie-bar lifters.
twolow02fransen
05-20-2009, 09:35 PM
i said moal lifters i mis-typed, i meant moral tie-bar lifters.
ha thats better i kinda thought thats what you ment lol
04Denali
05-21-2009, 04:09 PM
hey Chase, just thought I would say your build looks Great.
Also I really don't think you will have any problems with the NVG-149 I was at 805 ft lbs o torque and my truck weighed 6300lbs and didn't have any problems.
Mark
2004SSS
06-09-2009, 04:53 PM
i hope your right mark i plan to push it past that quite a bit though .
you can see the extra bolt on the heads in the lifter window.
waiting on mounts from hs for the rest of the rockers.
plan to pick it up this weekend if everything comes in . then all i need is fuel rails and she will be ready to drop in and turn the key.
1slow01Z71
06-10-2009, 05:25 PM
Only bad thing about 6 bolts per cylinder is now that the heads are clamped down so good, you no longer have that safety net of pushing a headgasket if it detonates, much more likely to take out a ring land.
But...on the bright side you can keep the heads down once you start getting in the 20psi range :devil:
I spy a big whipple, what is that for?:lurk:
2004SSS
06-10-2009, 06:40 PM
thats just one of the many engines at his shop , he isnt a sponser but he is on tech.
he mostly does sand rails . there is alot of cool shit there. world products blocks and such.
im not sure which whipple that is i think its the big one.
here are some pics from the shop , this rail is hand fabbed aluminum body. 30k just in body .
now gotta figure out what im going to do for valve covers as stockers wont work , so i need something nice or some spacers.
blkssncpt
06-23-2009, 11:29 PM
SWEEET!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! glad to hear u finaly got it home Chase!!!
btw: who's Red SSS is in the background???
-Rob
2004SSS
06-23-2009, 11:45 PM
its over @ phillips house. we plan to pull the motor on the truck saturday , along with installing a new trans in his friends rcsb with a lq4 and a radix.
also have to do the knock sensors on the maro again.
if you want to come by chill and cook up some asada your more than welcome , its walking distance from my house.
Atomic
06-23-2009, 11:51 PM
What size turbos were you planning on going with?
Wilde Racing
06-24-2009, 12:16 AM
wow... getting closer.... what is your target hp range again?
DBYRD
06-24-2009, 12:30 AM
im very interested. who doesn't like engine porn?
usabodyguard
06-24-2009, 12:38 AM
+1 for the build chase. I really like those heads, I would have gone with some 6 bolt heads if I was running more boost, sweet choice.
Im curious to hear about your fuel setup with that much HP...
Spoolin
06-24-2009, 02:00 AM
its over @ phillips house. we plan to pull the motor on the truck saturday , along with installing a new trans in his friends rcsb with a lq4 and a radix.
also have to do the knock sensors on the maro again.
if you want to come by chill and cook up some asada your more than welcome , its walking distance from my house.
That Red SS turbo charged? I see an A/A IC. What's up with those skinnies on the back??
Anyways, engine looks good! You can always use Abear for the valve covers if that suits your style, they are pretty good to deal with.
usabodyguard
06-24-2009, 02:31 AM
That Red SS turbo charged? I see an A/A IC. What's up with those skinnies on the back??
Anyways, engine looks good! You can always use Abear for the valve covers if that suits your style, they are pretty good to deal with.
hahaha dont mention abear to chase... unfortunately abear shut their doors last year... I got one of the last sets, and chase still gives me shit about it!!!
:D
chevytruck
06-24-2009, 07:39 AM
subscribing to this build.
2004SSS
06-24-2009, 06:26 PM
twins plan to be gt35's with ricks specs.
we are still going to run the twin 355's but @ low pressure , 30-35 psi @ idle boost referenced. they have recently tested the same system and it handled 1000rwhp with no meth . i am going to run meth and the biggest 100+ lb injectors low imp.
the red ss is phil's he is caddy pimpip on sss.
he has a really nice 408 on the way with some other goodies.
it had a radix on a lq9 until a piston quit life.
plan to make at least 1000awhp below 20 psi. dont know if i will push it past that. i want this one to live for a while and to enjoy driving it around. the good thing is from here on out progress should be good .
an idea of what it will look like, still thinking of what will happen with the fuel rails for color. and have to get the regulator/and all the rails / lines ran so i can slap it on when the motor is in. have to also figure out what to do as the intake wouldnt sit down without hitting the valley cover. i think it will need to be milled a bit to work. the balancer also stopped short so it had to come off and re approached.
Spoolin
06-25-2009, 12:49 AM
Hey chase, check out this thread and Post #150 to be exact. I think this may be a way to solve your problem with your intake, at least that's how a few people have done it in the past in order to make these intakes fit better.
its over @ phillips house. we plan to pull the motor on the truck saturday , along with installing a new trans in his friends rcsb with a lq4 and a radix.
also have to do the knock sensors on the maro again.
if you want to come by chill and cook up some asada your more than welcome , its walking distance from my house.
damn looks like u guys have a lot of work ahead of u. appreciate the invite and i wold shot up there but i blow my tranny AGAIN:bang: , i think it's the output shafts this time just waiting for Rey bro to let me know once he pulls it and takes it apart.
That things a work of art Chase and I'm sure it's going run like a beast as well!
2004SSS
06-25-2009, 08:02 PM
thanks julian , i asked the builder if he had this problem and he said to come pick up a milled cover he had.
leftcoast32
06-26-2009, 12:00 AM
Chase - The attention to detail on this build is outstanding!! Keep up the great work and give me a yell if you are in the area.
Wilde Racing
06-26-2009, 06:21 AM
1000hp engine that might last a while.... Who doesnt dream of that? What are the cam specs?
2004SSS
06-28-2009, 12:46 AM
got the 370 out today and pressure washed the bay . need to tap the block for the knock sensors and drop it in the 427 .
sending the 370 to get inspected, looks like i lost only one head gaskets.
had to get a custom cut valley cover for the sheet metal intake . have to cut the a/c bracket to make fit.
need to find a place that does anodizing , going to do the fuel rails, alternator, tb, alt bracket and some other small pieces.
hydroboost install will commence next week along with progress pictures.
the vortech , intake manifold will all be cleaned up and posted for sale .
btw dusty , cam specs arent crazy.
236/230 6xx/6xx lift and a 114-115 lsa.
2004SSS
06-29-2009, 11:11 PM
thanks guys spent about 4 hours on today after a 9 hour day . lotta heat and im tired as hell.
got the hydroboost in , that was a pita replacing the brake pedal . got the intercooler off , old 370 back to get freshened up.
rails to the anodizer. cleaned up some wiring and thats about it. spending lots of time in the decents of the engine bay , pretty comfy down there.
Atomic
06-29-2009, 11:14 PM
I found it comfortable if I straddle the rad support with one foot on the bumper and the other on the frame under the engine, and lean over the engine to do whatever.
2004SSS
07-01-2009, 09:01 PM
a couple pics today . got the antiseize so i could use some stainless buttom heads on the valley cover to help clear the intake. also for some smart reason i used allen head bolts and getting them tight is a two man job for sure. for anyone else doing the hydroboost install , getting off the pedal sucks , a 18mm ratchet wrench and a 3/8 drive with 18mm shallow w/4 inch extension is key. still a pita if your a bigger person . also the ss master cylinder works just fine with the hydroboost.
did all the fuel rails plumbing and got the rails back from anodizing , injectors are in and the intake is ready to bolt on .
waiting on the knock sensor/cam sensor harness. making new battery cables tomorrow and thats pretty much it . the motor may be put in this weekend. i will be leaving for arizona for 4 days tomorrow so progress will sease for the 4th.
Looking Good chase!!! Need some pics from the front of the engine to take a better look at your TB set-up. Also what's the height from the valley cover of that intake! Looks badass!!
2004SSS
07-05-2009, 06:23 PM
8 almost 9 inches iirc. this is why i had to run the regulator to the driver side insead of behind the intake , it comes closer to the firewall than the vic jr.
Silverado_13
07-05-2009, 09:10 PM
Subscribing.
2004SSS
07-06-2009, 07:52 PM
BIG STEP FORWARD
Thanks to phillip, aka caddypimpin. I left for the river on thursday dropped off some beer and sunday came back to this.
ran into a little problem , the way i have the regulator wont work as it hits the firewall so im going to bend some hardline up and make my own fittings on the rear passenger rail to push the regulator back a little . also going to have to cut the driver side fuel rail down to near the injector and cut a -8 an fitting and weld it to the rail . then use a 90 -8 female to hose then to the y. this is with the stock 105 amp alt , going to pick mine up tomorrow and make sure it will have a shot as its even bigger but should work . below you can see my issue with the smaller alt.
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b351/04chase/DSC02733.jpg
basically just have to , install alt headers, plum the fuel , i made all new battery cables that are ready to install. plum the wiring, new knock sensor/cam sensor harness. electric water pump . finish the hydroboost which should be cake. and all the little b/s . hope to have it fired by this weekend if im lucky .
2004SSS
07-10-2009, 01:35 PM
well got the fuel rails all figured out had to use a 90- bulkhead near the alternator and a bulk head on the rear to move the fpr out from hitting the back of the intake and still maintaining to clear the firewall. i only had about 1/2 inch to play with back there.
now not much more progress as i just pulled my wisdom teeth and dont feel like doing a whole lot. hopefully sunday have some wiring and bolts touched up.
Spoolin
07-10-2009, 01:41 PM
Looks good chase!!! Where's the hot parts?
2004SSS
07-10-2009, 03:59 PM
going to break the motor in before i put any boost to it. besides its gotta long drive up north for the turbos.
its going to be weird driving with a torque motor and stock stall.
nickpc82
07-10-2009, 04:48 PM
Thats a super clean setup, great attention to detail. Where are you getting your turbos?
2004SSS
07-10-2009, 06:55 PM
rick @ synergy will be doing the fab work on the kit.
SuperchargedSS
07-10-2009, 09:01 PM
now not much more progress as i just pulled my wisdom teeth and dont feel like doing a whole lot. hopefully sunday have some wiring and bolts touched up.
yeah, can't imagine that feeling very good at all. Aren't you a lil older to be getting them yanked? LOL...
zippy
07-10-2009, 10:34 PM
Looking great. Hopefully my next trip to Cali I can see it.
2004SSS
07-10-2009, 11:13 PM
not to old yet im 24 now i am a couple years late on em . kind of weird since my better half works at the dentist.
mike ill be sure to meet up with ya when you come out.
nickpc82
07-10-2009, 11:19 PM
I got truck tuned by Rick he does great work...Is he gonna be tunning it too? I'm bout 1hr 30mins away from his shop...
usabodyguard
07-11-2009, 12:43 AM
Looks great :thumb: cant wait to see the turbos on it, its gonna be wicked. That intake really sets it off.
you can see how close the fitment of these two things were. i was begining to think this intake wouldnt work with truck accesories. but a few key fittings got it done. its nice to have a place that has all the fittings in stock and in black anodized.
Wilde Racing
07-11-2009, 05:32 PM
wow... looks WAY WAY good... The big question is how are you going to get this monster passed tech after you run 9's?
SuperchargedSS
07-11-2009, 10:49 PM
Damn, wish I could get that involved into my truck, lol...
2004SSS
07-12-2009, 03:44 PM
its not hard man .
ran into a bit of another intake manifold problem. the bolt holes arent lining up . im about 1/8th of an inch off . when i bolt down one side the other side is about 1/8 inch further on the heads. meaning i need to stretch the manifold over to get to line up
2004RST
07-12-2009, 03:46 PM
how did that happen chase? was something warped or do the bolts have to be like 1/4 turned then move on to the next one or could the gasket be pushing it over?
2004SSS
07-12-2009, 03:54 PM
most likly the taller deck height on the lsx along with .060 head gaskets.
my friend that did the motor said he may have a solution .
ZR1 DREAMING
07-12-2009, 04:06 PM
Very nice Chase! I'd love to see that in person one of these days :nod:
zippy
07-12-2009, 10:06 PM
I'd assume just milling the intake could fix that.
Spoolin
07-13-2009, 02:14 AM
Ewwwww...that doesn't sound like a fun problem to have.
2004SSS
07-13-2009, 08:08 PM
thats what we did mike milled it a little and got it to fit nice n tight. shouldnt be long now maybe this weekend turn it over.
DubDuece
07-13-2009, 10:07 PM
Sweet build dude!! Thats a Standard deck Lsx right?
2004SSS
07-14-2009, 08:36 PM
yes it is.
no work recently had to do knock sensors on my maro and it went from pain in the ass to a nightmare im finally home after giving up on it for the day.
Wilde Racing
07-15-2009, 01:07 AM
so the intake is all good now?
DubDuece
07-15-2009, 10:42 AM
whats your overall compression ratio set at with your setup?
2004SSS
07-15-2009, 06:43 PM
yeah the intake now fits , the knock sensors are done on the camaro too
compression is 9.0-9.1
zippy
07-15-2009, 11:12 PM
I'm a decent drive away from you, but if I can be of any help let me know. I can get you a great rate on dyno time if you ever need it and we have a killer track out here (other than the altitude).
Rompn
07-16-2009, 12:48 AM
Subscribing since I live close by and will have to see this in person sometime. :burnout:
Wilde Racing
07-16-2009, 01:06 AM
Subscribing since I live close by and will have to see this in person sometime. :burnout:
never mind the fact it's going to be one of the fastest ecsb trucks on the net... lol
laynlow77
07-16-2009, 02:22 AM
wow chase! havent checked up in a while and you've made some serious progress... i'll be down your way pretty soon (early aug), maybe i can swing by for a while
Rompn
07-16-2009, 11:08 AM
never mind the fact it's going to be one of the fastest ecsb trucks on the net... lol
Ya, that's why I want to check it out in person. lol.
2004SSS
07-16-2009, 05:07 PM
thanks guys i appreciate the kind words.
when i go up north to pick it up i plan to run it at the closest track up there. id like to see what it will run at a track i dont frequent in case i get the boot. ill be sure to meet up with a few of you guys .
layn ,
you still got my number give me a ring if you want to come by.
mike thanks , i know ill be going to vegas sometime soon , i make at least 3-4 trips a year. one time will be in the truck for sure to take part in some of the midnight racing hopefully in the winter to get some decent weather to help with the elevation . we may have to use the dyno before track session.
04Denali
07-16-2009, 07:46 PM
Chase,
let me know when you head over to Rick's,
Sacramento speedway is a pretty good track, easy on Tech
Truck is looking fantastic
Mark
2004RST
07-26-2009, 07:54 PM
just goin out on a limb...but chase...you know anyone livin in a state like Florida? maybe you should register the truck in FLA so you don't have to worry about inspection like what i'm doin with NY n2m it will save you on insurance money
Spoolin
07-26-2009, 08:02 PM
Doesn't work that way
616 of 933
07-26-2009, 08:12 PM
Chase do you think you will get more than one pass at the track before the kick you off?
2004SSS
07-26-2009, 09:48 PM
yes i do , first they give you a warning if its not too fast . usually on a shake down it doesent go to fast anyway. so two passes at least !
but the company i ordered the valve covers from is killing me, i ordered them 3 weeks ago and was told they would be done in one week . thats all i will say but its the only thing i need to fire this motor right now.
2004RST
07-27-2009, 02:00 PM
Doesn't work that way
how does it not work that way? works that way up here...no inspections for me...as far as they know i'm here 6 months & there 6 months...as long as my registration is good & my license stays clean they really can't say too much
04Denali
07-27-2009, 02:14 PM
are you talking about registration and Smog, I have all my vehicles registered up in the mountains at a motel that is in a smog exempt county. no smog checks for me.
Mark
black06
07-28-2009, 07:56 PM
Doesn't work that way
out of state students do it all the time......:eek2:
2004SSS
08-05-2009, 12:00 AM
well the valve covers came in today .
got some work to do still ( figuure the best way to mount them as i have options with these mounts and need to make sure the wires i have will work )
KICK ASS!!! I bet that cost a pretty penny, and I see orders lining up for those bad boys... deffinetly a good option for the now defunct ABEARs :(
Atomic
08-05-2009, 12:34 AM
those look great!
Wayfastwhitey967
08-05-2009, 01:29 AM
dude where in so cal are you located?
Spoolin
08-05-2009, 02:51 AM
Looks good chase!!
skyhighsami
08-05-2009, 06:55 AM
What are your ET goals once completed and tuned? I am guess some mid to low 10s? You should have somewhere around 850 wheel I would imagine with the extra loss through the transfer case, unless you are converting it to 2wd and I missed that. Awesome project
krambo
08-05-2009, 07:57 AM
KICK ASS!!! I bet that cost a pretty penny, and I see orders lining up for those bad boys... deffinetly a good option for the now defunct ABEARs :(
I agree! Post up some more info on those...
What are your ET goals once completed and tuned? I am guess some mid to low 10s? You should have somewhere around 850 wheel I would imagine with the extra loss through the transfer case, unless you are converting it to 2wd and I missed that. Awesome project
I feel the truck is more than capable of mid 10's with everything dialed in and not being kicked out for safety reasons. Depending on boost, 850RWHP could be the low end. Depends what Chase is building it for though really. I assume it is a "show and go" rather than a complete race truck.
GMracer
08-05-2009, 09:19 AM
in for info on the covers :pimp:
jow02327
08-05-2009, 01:55 PM
in for info on the covers :pimp:
+1 :D they look badass
garcia
08-05-2009, 03:52 PM
the whole build is awesome but those covers are sick
jerry"n.l.c"
08-05-2009, 03:59 PM
nice!!
2004SSS
08-05-2009, 07:48 PM
well they are a sponser on tech , nasty performance made these for me. yes they were kind of pricey . but they will work . i wanted the abears but they are now unavailable.
kevin is right this isnt an all out race truck , if it was it would be a scsb.
goal is to have a mean street truck that can be driven daily and make some good numbers at the track. ( may go for some crazy numbers at the track knowing my intentions)
zippy
08-06-2009, 12:55 AM
Those valve covers are pretty bad ass. You have yet again found a way to make the engine look even better.
Wilde Racing
08-06-2009, 01:10 AM
I think his intake does enough...
charcold-bowtie
08-10-2009, 09:47 AM
bump
Looks nice!
I didnt know knock sensors are moved to the side of the block on the lsx. As well as they dont have the plastic bolt in lifter catchers or whatever.
2004SSS
08-10-2009, 06:04 PM
yeah that was also a reason for me going to a tie bar lifter.
here is another little update
man the little things take forever. i keep saying this weekend but run into more things that need to be done. i didnt like the way the coil brackets were mounted to the covers so i made some changes. i tapped the braket mount in a different location so that i could move the coils up and not block the engraving as much . this way you can see the covers and hise some wiring behind them . below you can see how they were supposed to be mounted and now how they are mounted
and not to big on trashing companies , so i wont ill just say that the brackets for the coils were wrong and i was told how i placed an order for ls2 coils , but i said truck coils . followed by truck coils and ls2 coils are the same. i didnt want to wait for me to send these back and wait another 3-4 weeks for the anodizing to get finished. i dont have that kind of time right now . so i ended up buying a set of ls2 coils for a whopping amount of cash . supposedly these have a better spark . i just hope that 20+ psi works with them .
krambo
08-11-2009, 11:45 AM
Chase, you live in Cali...block off the heater and get rid of those heater hoses! LOL. :D You have heated seats anyway.
They look great. Can't wait to see her in action!
Wilde Racing
08-11-2009, 11:48 AM
wow looks killer. sorry to hear about the coil confusion...
thunderwagen
08-11-2009, 05:01 PM
I would reroute the heater hoses to the passengers side fender. It cleans it up lot and will keep them away from the turbo. That's what I did on mine.
Flaco
08-11-2009, 09:27 PM
awsome valvecovers man..
2004SSS
08-15-2009, 01:39 PM
well today should be launch. got everything pretty much done . with alot of help and thanks goes to 03caddypimpin , he has helped out so much with this swap . letting me make an absolute mess at his house .
also reynaldo aka chpspecial is also helping out a bit with the tuning and base file.
we did get to crank it over but the battery was really weak. so its charging and i had to go do some family business . i will be back in a few hours and hopefully driving the beast.
yea. looks KILLER, hopully all goes well during the first start up...
2004SSS
08-15-2009, 11:28 PM
well huge day of frustration , got everything ready to go and found a bunch of fuel leaks . fixed them after hours of trying new things. still have a small one but a small drip on a fitting.
now to crank and nothing. check fuel , good , check spark good. dtc's show a p0343 cam voltage code. so now im pissed and a few corona's deep. going to give it some thought . right now could be wrong cam gear or something internal . fuggin sucks .
GMCtrk
08-15-2009, 11:29 PM
Sorry to hear this man. You will get it worked out. I know how frustrating these type of things can be.
Wilde Racing
08-15-2009, 11:39 PM
what cam? cam sensor location? timing set?
usabodyguard
08-16-2009, 12:23 AM
you did get the new cam sensor extension harness right? You might check cont in the wires make sure nothing is cut or frayed?
2004SSS
08-16-2009, 12:29 AM
gen 3 cam , i forgot the timing set we used.
pretty sure nothing got messed up in thw wiring , that was pretty much one of the last things i installed.
should get it figured out soon . gotta give my friend the builder a ring and see if he can think of anything
zippy
08-16-2009, 12:42 AM
well huge day of frustration , got everything ready to go and found a bunch of fuel leaks . fixed them after hours of trying new things. still have a small one but a small drip on a fitting.
now to crank and nothing. check fuel , good , check spark good. dtc's show a p0343 cam voltage code. so now im pissed and a few corona's deep. going to give it some thought . right now could be wrong cam gear or something internal . fuggin sucks .
The cam gear in your picture has a 1x cam reluctor on there. That should be correct for your truck. According to the GM Service Information (SI) the truck should run with this code set and without the cam sensor working correctly. It also shows that the engine should be running to set this code. I would check with your engine builder to make sure that he put the correct crank reluctor on the crank. If it had the wrong crank reluctor the pcm would see more rpm that is actually there thinking the engine is running and allowing the cam sensor code to set. Here are some things to check for if you do have a cam sensor issue. You could also log the cranking rpm with HPT with enough battery power to be able to see how high it's showing. If cranking rpm shows normal the reluctor should be fine. Just something to check into.
Camshaft reluctor ring damage
The sensor coming in contact with the reluctor ring
Foreign material passing between the sensor and the reluctor ring
Excessive camshaft end-play
Wiring routed too close to secondary ignition components
2004SSS
08-16-2009, 01:12 PM
i dont think he would have changed the reluctor wheel. it came on the crank i ordered.
im going to get the builder to look at it and inspect it. ill also log some rpms when cranking .what rpm do you usually see when cranking? if its the wrong reluctor ill see double that correct?
zippy
08-16-2009, 01:20 PM
i dont think he would have changed the reluctor wheel. it came on the crank i ordered.
im going to get the builder to look at it and inspect it. ill also log some rpms when cranking .what rpm do you usually see when cranking? if its the wrong reluctor ill see double that correct?
The standard reluctor is 24x for a Gen III. The Gen IV is a 58x. It will be slightly more than double. Normal cranking rpm is 300-400rpm round about.
caddy03pimpin
08-17-2009, 01:25 AM
"03caddypimpin , he has helped out so much with this swap . letting me make an absolute mess at his house"
no problem man just glad i was able to work on such a nice truck like the one you have, the mess lol thats like every week for me hope we can get this bad boy running
5.7L JWL
08-20-2009, 03:04 PM
Scribed!
Your attention to detail is superb. I can't wait for the results.
Jay
KySilverado
08-20-2009, 03:45 PM
Sooooooo close. Get that thing fired! The world is waiting. Good luck!
krambo
08-20-2009, 04:02 PM
Chase are you still using the stock truck wire harness? How about what cam sensor are you using? I hear alot of issues with mismatched cam sensors and cam gears that mimick what you are describing.
5speedsilverado
08-20-2009, 07:18 PM
wow, sucks about the dtc code, looks great though
2004SSS
08-20-2009, 09:00 PM
its at the shop who built the motor right now , should find something out early next week . im really in no hurry for it right now though . just need it for the nor cal meet in early october.
kevin , what is the solution to this ?
2004SSS
08-22-2009, 12:52 PM
ok tried switching the pins on the cam ext harness yesterday . nothing . coil packs could possibly be switched around as well( wiring swapped 180 )
here is a pic of the cam gear and the pic of the tan sensor , need to check on compadibility.
Why dont you get some spark plug looms like a LT1 uses and get some longer plug wires and route it around the valve covers and they wont be covered at all. Just a thought good luck
2004SSS
08-25-2009, 07:25 PM
ive thought about that , just waiting to see what rick will end up doing when the turbos heat comes into play. i would really like to showcase the valve covers but the turbos take priority in the bling. after seeing magnuson's chrome powder coat. i may end up using that if it can withstand the heat. im also hoping to have a d-max with a trailer come years end so long trips with this thing will be a thing of the past.
also so i have to stop paying tow trucks. btw AAA premium kicks ass. 4x 100 miles tow's a year and a single 200 mile tow for 135 bucks aint bad.
Rick_Vor
08-29-2009, 05:59 PM
Subscribed...
Rick
charcold-bowtie
08-31-2009, 10:10 PM
figure anything out yet?
2004SSS
09-16-2009, 06:31 PM
well some chit ended up hanppening. timing chain broke from a back fire and motor had to come out and checked for piston to valve contact. lucky for dished pistons. it is back in and running as of today.
blkssncpt
09-16-2009, 06:43 PM
well some chit ended up hanppening. timing chain broke from a back fire and motor had to come out and checked for piston to valve contact. lucky for dished pistons. it is back in and running as of today.
WoW WoW WoW!!! is running??? did i read that right??? dude sound clip man!!!
-Rob
pewterliftedz
09-16-2009, 08:00 PM
WoW WoW WoW!!! is running??? did i read that right??? dude sound clip man!!!
-Rob
thats a big X2
Spoolin
09-17-2009, 12:30 AM
Backfire broke the timing chain?? Wow...that doesn't sound good. I take it the springs couldn't close the exhaust valve fast enough and loaded the cam up real good to break that chain...?
Where's the sound clips?
53RUSSELL
09-18-2009, 06:03 PM
thats a big X4
zeake
09-19-2009, 07:00 AM
Chase. Glad to see it moving along. Did you have custom front driveshaft made or did you use a stock one? I am converting my truck to 4l80 and it is awd. I need to find the front shaft that will work. Thanks
2004SSS
09-23-2009, 06:08 PM
well the truck is in its new garage/home finally . idle has alot of bark , i thought it would be alot more stock sounding . im sure the tuning will get it in place though.
i have not done the 80 swap yet.
zeake
09-23-2009, 06:53 PM
well the truck is in its new garage/home finally . idle has alot of bark , i thought it would be alot more stock sounding . im sure the tuning will get it in place though.
i have not done the 80 swap yet.
So what you are saying is you have not mashed the gas yet. :D
2004SSS
09-23-2009, 10:02 PM
no definatly have not gave it any real gas, im running a bit on the rich side. about 12.5-13.0 afr.
here is a decent idle clip from a camera.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipUmwPT99FI
tarinitup
09-23-2009, 10:14 PM
Sounds really nice. Cant wait to see your results.
SuperchargedSS
09-23-2009, 10:23 PM
oooooooooo, sounds SO nice around 34seconds to 50 seconds. NICE!
Wilde Racing
09-23-2009, 10:27 PM
glad to see you got her running!!
2004SSS
09-24-2009, 04:53 PM
thanks guys , just wondering why it has so much chop . i did not expect it to be like that at all.
Hawk179
09-24-2009, 07:20 PM
thanks guys , just wondering why it has so much chop . i did not expect it to be like that at all.
not tuned
AV8R27
09-24-2009, 09:29 PM
That...sounds...SICKKKK!! Read a couple pages into this project a little while back, but just sat down and read all 20 pages. Very commendable man...Patience pays off for sure. Can't wait to see future progress! Again...huge CONGRATS!! :rock:
zippy
09-25-2009, 12:01 PM
thanks guys , just wondering why it has so much chop . i did not expect it to be like that at all.
The chop is because of the compression with that much cam. The cam isn't big compared to what some others are running, but with a 9:1 motor it's alot of cam even with 7.0L's.
2004SSS
09-25-2009, 12:42 PM
mike when you coming to ca?
8ALTNG
09-25-2009, 04:28 PM
sounds wicked!!!!!!!! Good job man
2004SSS
10-12-2009, 05:27 PM
well truck is at synergy now , let the final part of the build begin. pictures will be coming in here and there with updates from rick .
Ever figure out what to do about the front driveshaft for the swap to 4l80? I did. Kbracing came forward with the info. 2500hd 5 speed front driveshaft. I have not found a part number yet.
:thumb: Looks bad ass chase... Im curious to see the final results between you - 427 LSX twin turbo, and Jason (midnightrider) 447 LSX twin turbo... HP/ETs
Whats left? When will it be done?
:hail:
krambo
01-15-2010, 08:07 PM
MMM, I can smell the HP now! Its going to look kick ass when the cold piping is in!
2004SSS
01-15-2010, 08:17 PM
if i can keep it awd its going to be a monster on the street which is my goal . i know im pushing it but if i can get it to dip into the low 10's and keep it awd i have reached my goal . anything you can drive to the track run low 10s and then tow your race car home is something pretty dam unique.
on a side not i met a guy yesterday while out working in yucaipa that has an 06-07 h2 hummer with a durty max allison swap runs on biodiesel and looks freaking awesome. Its lifted up a bit( i think about 6-7 lift on 37's. The thing that got me was the guy said he smoked his friends z06 c6 on the freeway so i let him know i had a truck that would probably be a good race in a few months . he asked if it was diesel ? I said nope gas, he doesent think it will stand a chance. definatly another unique truck though so i gave him some props on having something different , something gm should have made from the factory.
SuperchargedSS
01-15-2010, 09:08 PM
the guy said he smoked his friends z06 c6 on the freeway
holy crap. I'd love to see that! H2 weighs nearly twice as much as the Z.
2004SSS
01-16-2010, 01:39 PM
yeah it was cool , trying to decide on the colors for the pipes to be coated now. gm orange sounds good but it may be too much . the hot side will probably be a dark color . possibly black .
laynlow77
01-16-2010, 02:00 PM
lookin good chase! it was fast enough for me with the old setup
04Denali
01-16-2010, 02:49 PM
Getting closer, starting to come together. Why are you thinking of getting rid of your AWD?
worked fine with mine and my truck is 800 lbs heavier.
Mark
2004SSS
01-16-2010, 03:28 PM
i plan to push it pretty hard mark id really to like to go for 9's and keep it awd. i wish your truck would have made it through the fire to see if it would hold up over time , did you ever get to really get on it with high boost ? the nice thing is the QS denali already had a stronger rear end to start with . though i would guess the rear will hold up im worried about the front end . time will tell. the fact that 2wd will also mean less weight and less drivetrain loss. i think going 2wd would also be a huge benefit for going 9's. it wont be a track only truck so the awd will be staying for now.
Spoolin
01-19-2010, 09:47 PM
Looks awesome Chase!! Can't wait to see this thing finished!!
Those collectors are frigg'in awesome looking. When I was down at Rick's shop looking at his "new" kit that he is selling, he was telling me those baby's run about $250 each. He told me what brand they were but for the life of me I can't remember who made them. They definetely look like they would flow great.
Rick
2004SSS
01-20-2010, 10:49 PM
i got a few pics of the finished headers , rick is doing some quality work for sure. im to the point where im starting to really miss my truck im hoping to go visit it here in a month or so.
whens the truck gonna be back down here and up and running
Rick_Vor
01-21-2010, 10:57 PM
more sexy
Beautiful work. With headers like that, I wouldn't want to wrap them!
2004SSS
01-23-2010, 05:12 PM
i dont think they will get wrapped but possibly right now just stainless going to get coated. still looking at possible coating colors for the hot side
I love synergy's twin kits. Best out there without a doubt.
Hawk179
01-23-2010, 10:04 PM
I love synergy's twin kits. Best out there without a doubt.
U should by one then. I have one for sale.
SILVERADO11
01-24-2010, 12:19 PM
Bad ass build man!
ss04flores
01-26-2010, 06:31 PM
nice work! any idea when it should be running?
2004SSS
01-26-2010, 06:42 PM
truck runs just not with the turbos . i put about 100 miles on the 427 before i took it too rick . we are hoping for late march to pick it up and make it squeal.
siktruk
01-26-2010, 06:47 PM
i cant wait to see this thing in action at fontana and btw chase it was good to meet you a few weeks ago at the track i was the one in the slow ass xcab that they kept calling a Supersport
GMracer
01-26-2010, 07:45 PM
ahh skeet skeet. I'm so jealous
2004SSS
01-26-2010, 09:54 PM
i cant wait to see this thing in action at fontana and btw chase it was good to meet you a few weeks ago at the track i was the one in the slow ass xcab that they kept calling a Supersport
i know who you are man . your truck didnt run too bad man . youll get faster with time and mods . we all have to start somewhere. im sure ill see you out there again before i get the truck back .
ahh skeet skeet. I'm so jealous
you jeolous of me , the feeling is mutual man. your build is freaking insane. i would love to attempt a project like that. the cad and water jet fab work your doing looks like a blast. keep up the amazing work i cant wait to see it get finished.
btw where are my exhaust tips ??:devil:
GMracer
01-27-2010, 08:59 AM
Thanks, but dude your truck is insane, the motor setup is what I dream of.
I need a pan and some $$, going to have to start from scratch to get them to work on your pan. I already want to make a second set, you know what they say... things always come out better the second time around. So I may draw them up in CAD and go from there.
Spoolin
02-16-2010, 12:33 AM
What's the latest chase? Any word from Rick on when it will be done?
Hawk179
02-16-2010, 09:24 AM
What's the latest chase? Any word from Rick on when it will be done?
Still go a ways to go on it bro. I am pretty much a one man shop in this economy right now. So we still have to get an Intercooler made, which I am almost done designing and choosing a builder for it. Then we need to build the cold side stuff, pick a color for anodizing. Send the hot stuff out to be coated. Clean up all the wiring in the truck because its a mess. So its pretty much all the little things that will take a ton of time now.
R
james8997
02-17-2010, 08:41 PM
after reading through all 25 pages, im really happy in the pants:D:D
great work man