Just checking to see who wants to meet up at Kennedale on Thursday? It's only $10 and the weather should be good! High of 73, Low of 48!!!!! Gates open up at 6pm, also if anyone wants to meet up at chicken express before that would be cool too, cause I will be coming straight from work.... Slacks and a dress shirt at the track, kinda retarded huh?
BlackGMC
11-03-2008, 05:49 PM
Bump for the night crowd...
built408
11-03-2008, 05:51 PM
I might show, still waiting on parts for my trans, so I'll be rolling stock:bomb:
BlackGMC
11-03-2008, 05:53 PM
I might show, still waiting on parts for my trans, so I'll be rolling stock:bomb:
Thats cool, you can watch, I did that a few weeks ago... Might be kinda lame thou since it is street legal only...
A Low Dime
11-03-2008, 06:01 PM
I might head out there, gotta swing by work in a few minutes to see what my schedule is tho, I may be working.
KySilverado
11-03-2008, 06:37 PM
I do! I do!. Damn in Texas.
00ChevyScott
11-03-2008, 07:10 PM
I'll be making my first run with the 4.10s and the locker. woo
BlackGMC
11-03-2008, 07:11 PM
I'll be making my first run with the 4.10s and the locker. woo
You better not bring the rain with you, taco boy.....
00ChevyScott
11-03-2008, 07:16 PM
You better not bring the rain with you, taco boy.....
:321:
A Low Dime
11-03-2008, 07:18 PM
Your not working Thursday?
dlt76028
11-03-2008, 07:28 PM
i'll most likely be up there to cut some sub 2.0 60' with my g80:bomb:
BlackGMC
11-03-2008, 07:44 PM
i'll most likely be up there to cut some sub 2.0 60' with my g80:bomb:
You gonna run slicks or your new tires????
dlt76028
11-03-2008, 07:51 PM
You gonna run slicks or your new tires????
definitely the slicks
built408
11-03-2008, 07:55 PM
i'll most likely be up there to cut some sub 2.0 60' with my g80:bomb:
You wanna buy my auburn pro series? Thinking of going with a spool. Was rebuilt by auburn and has about 5k miles on it.
dlt76028
11-03-2008, 08:02 PM
You wanna buy my auburn pro series? Thinking of going with a spool. Was rebuilt by auburn and has about 5k miles on it.
yea i might, PM me a price.
BlackGMC
11-03-2008, 08:06 PM
If you do get it, might as well throw some gears in there too...
dlt76028
11-03-2008, 08:09 PM
If you do get it, might as well throw some gears in there too...
already ahead of ya:secret2:. 3.90 or 4.10 is the ?
00ChevyScott
11-03-2008, 08:14 PM
already ahead of ya:secret2:. 3.90 or 4.10 is the ?
4.10 :judge:
BlackGMC
11-03-2008, 08:14 PM
already ahead of ya:secret2:. 3.90 or 4.10 is the ?
3.73s at 70mph is ~2250rpm
3.90s at 70mph is ~2350rpm
4.10s at 70mph is ~2450rpm
dlt76028
11-03-2008, 08:25 PM
3.73s at 70mph is ~2250rpm
3.90s at 70mph is ~2350rpm
4.10s at 70mph is ~2450rpm
that must be with like 27" tires or something? the calculator says with my 29.2" tire and 4.10 its 2312rpm
http://www.csgnetwork.com/multirpmcalc.html
BlackGMC
11-03-2008, 08:30 PM
that must be with like 27" tires or something? the calculator says with my 29.2" tire and 4.10 its 2312rpm
http://www.csgnetwork.com/multirpmcalc.html
Sorry about that, that was with the 80e ratios
here are the 60e
3.73s at 70mph is ~2100rpm
3.90s at 70mph is ~2200rpm
4.10s at 70mph is ~2300rpm
chevyguy7802
11-03-2008, 08:32 PM
Ima try and make it out there and make some passes....
00ChevyScott
11-03-2008, 09:34 PM
Ima try and make it out there and make some passes....
SCORE! :judge:
Lurius
11-04-2008, 01:33 AM
I may show. I am off that day too, woo.
Question is: Slicks, or just the 20's? Slicks are 28x12.5.. i think they are a bit wide for me really, and don't want to risk breaking anything..Last time I was there I broke rear end and tranny =( Opinions from you guys?
-Lurius
00ChevyScott
11-04-2008, 07:40 AM
20s so I can beat you!
BlackGMC
11-04-2008, 09:33 AM
20s so I can beat you!
F*** that hero, remember this thread?
Calling out BLACKGMC (http://www.performancetrucks.net/forums/showthread.php?t=417896&highlight=blackgmc)
Are you ready for my little 4.8 to hand your ass to you?????
built408
11-04-2008, 10:35 AM
I may show. I am off that day too, woo.
Question is: Slicks, or just the 20's? Slicks are 28x12.5.. i think they are a bit wide for me really, and don't want to risk breaking anything..Last time I was there I broke rear end and tranny =( Opinions from you guys?
-Lurius
Bring the slicks, trans will hold, just stay off the juice..
Lurius
11-04-2008, 10:57 AM
20s so I can beat you!
i'd still win the bling competition. lolz
http://www.bookofjoe.com/images/bling_gauge.jpg
Bring the slicks, trans will hold, just stay off the juice..
Yea, I havent used the nitrous on this motor ever, and definately wont be until I get this tune all sorted out.
00ChevyScott
11-04-2008, 01:00 PM
F*** that hero, remember this thread?
Calling out BLACKGMC (http://www.performancetrucks.net/forums/showthread.php?t=417896&highlight=blackgmc)
Are you ready for my little 4.8 to hand your ass to you?????
Just wait till I get my converter :devil:
But its on anyways! bring it.
BlackGMC
11-04-2008, 01:05 PM
Just wait till I get my converter :devil:
But its on anyways! bring it.
BlackGMC = http://bestsmileys.com/cars/22.gif
00ChevyScott = http://bestsmileys.com/cars/14.gif
00ChevyScott
11-04-2008, 01:07 PM
BlackGMC = http://bestsmileys.com/cars/22.gif
00ChevyScott = http://bestsmileys.com/cars/14.gif
Looks like you're working hard today :eyes:
I just dumped some purple stuff in my motor today :chug:
BlackGMC
11-04-2008, 01:08 PM
Looks like you're working hard today :eyes:
yep 2.5 weeks until I start my new job, so I am basically surfing the net all day....
00ChevyScott
11-04-2008, 01:13 PM
yep 2.5 weeks until I start my new job, so I am basically surfing the net all day....
that'll be 2.5 weeks of thinking about getting beat by an ext cab :nod:
that'll be 2.5 weeks of thinking about getting beat by an ext cab :nod:
Your Ext cab with no verter = http://bestsmileys.com/cars/11.gif
My Reg cab with a verter = http://bestsmileys.com/cars/8.gif
mcfarlnd
11-04-2008, 01:29 PM
corey, you have a 4.8 cubic inch motor???????:confused::confused::jest:
BlackGMC
11-04-2008, 01:31 PM
corey, you have a 4.8 cubic inch motor???????:confused::confused::jest:
oppsss.... I am a tard....
You gonna make it this thurs?
00ChevyScott
11-04-2008, 01:34 PM
haha might as well be a 4.8 cubic incher.
mcfarlnd
11-04-2008, 01:36 PM
i may but, im scared of the 4.8 cubic inch gmc that is supposed to be there.:D
mcfarlnd
11-04-2008, 01:39 PM
chevy scott, are you getting traction at kennedale?
BlackGMC
11-04-2008, 01:46 PM
i may but, im scared of the 4.8 cubic inch gmc that is supposed to be there.:D
cool, i hope you can make it out, been awhile since I seen you...
mcfarlnd
11-04-2008, 01:57 PM
im around. i just get tired of driving so far to do shit.
00ChevyScott
11-04-2008, 02:02 PM
ya i get pretty decent traction out there. Haven't ran it with the new gears and locker though, so we'll see
05stepside
11-04-2008, 03:46 PM
well damn yall are makin me go out there just to watch but i am open to some highway action. and yes im a ricer i need a 60 roll so i dont spin
dlt76028
11-04-2008, 04:10 PM
well damn yall are makin me go out there just to watch but i am open to some highway action. and yes im a ricer i need a 60 roll so i dont spin
i'll take you up on on that. my 3.42s like the highway:nod:
00ChevyScott
11-04-2008, 04:13 PM
i'll take you up on on that. my 3.42s like the highway:nod:
goooooooooooood luck :D
BlackGMC
11-04-2008, 04:14 PM
i'll take you up on on that. my 3.42s like the highway:nod:
Get a DS loop before hand....
dlt76028
11-04-2008, 04:20 PM
Get a DS loop before hand....
only to about 120mph. i'm getting a driveshaft made pretty soon.
BlackGMC
11-04-2008, 04:22 PM
Same place your buddy got his?
BlackGMC
11-04-2008, 04:23 PM
And speaking of DS, I was thinking about going to the dyno on Saturday to see what I put down wanna come?
dlt76028
11-04-2008, 04:24 PM
And speaking of DS, I was thinking about going to the dyno on Saturday to see what I put down wanna come?
yea ft worth gear and axle. and yea i'll come if i'm off work. which dyno shop?
00ChevyScott
11-04-2008, 04:24 PM
And speaking of DS, I was thinking about going to the dyno on Saturday to see what I put down wanna come?
what dyno?
BlackGMC
11-04-2008, 04:31 PM
I dunno which dyno, I need to call around to see who has time available... I will probably call around in a day or so...
built408
11-04-2008, 04:38 PM
I was just up at Simple Quick and he was sitting on his ass. I'll talk to him tomar and see what he says. What time do you get off work? He would probably be ok with like thurs, or fri afternoon.
BlackGMC
11-04-2008, 04:39 PM
Cool, I am wanting to go on Saturday if they are open, cause my GF is going shopping and I will have some free/me time....
built408
11-04-2008, 04:41 PM
He is usually not there on Saturdays, but I'll see what he says...
built408
11-04-2008, 04:46 PM
well damn yall are makin me go out there just to watch but i am open to some highway action. and yes im a ricer i need a 60 roll so i dont spin
Why don't you make some runs? I got some slicks you can borrow.....
BlackGMC
11-04-2008, 04:57 PM
He is usually not there on Saturdays, but I'll see what he says...
hmmm, thursday I am going to the track so I wont have time, Friday my gf and i are going over to my parents so I wont have time... how much does he charge for 2-3 pulls?
built408
11-04-2008, 05:57 PM
What time do you get off thursday? You could do it right before the track. Only takes a few minutes to strap it down.
BlackGMC
11-04-2008, 06:26 PM
What time do you get off thursday? You could do it right before the track. Only takes a few minutes to strap it down.
5, are they located in Benbrook?
built408
11-04-2008, 06:34 PM
ya, right off Winscott, like 1 block north of 20.
00ChevyScott
11-04-2008, 06:47 PM
hmm, might have to go watch ur dyno if you do it.
btw, what should i set the air pressure on my tires at for the track? Or since i already hook pretty good should i leave them where theyre at?
built408
11-04-2008, 06:49 PM
hmm, might have to go watch ur dyno if you do it.
btw, what should i set the air pressure on my tires at for the track? Or since i already hook pretty good should i leave them where theyre at?
10 psi :cool:
00ChevyScott
11-04-2008, 06:54 PM
10 psi :cool:
haha, id be riding rim there :eyes:
BlackGMC
11-04-2008, 07:19 PM
ya, right off Winscott, like 1 block north of 20.
Do you know how to lock the converter and command a gear with HP tuners?
built408
11-04-2008, 07:37 PM
Do you know how to lock the converter and command a gear with HP tuners?
Ya, but can't you do it with your efi live? Or we could use a tech 2.
BlackGMC
11-04-2008, 07:40 PM
Ya, but can't you do it with your efi live? Or we could use a tech 2.
I can but i have never done it before...
A Low Dime
11-04-2008, 08:37 PM
Who am I gonna race? I guess Ill spray on yall to keep up.:chug:
built408
11-04-2008, 08:42 PM
I can but i have never done it before...
Ya, I can do it. Do you have an innovative wideband?
00ChevyScott
11-04-2008, 08:44 PM
Who am I gonna race? I guess Ill spray on yall to keep up.:chug:
you might spray a little piss out after i whoop your ass :judge:
A Low Dime
11-04-2008, 08:47 PM
you might spray a little piss out after i whoop your ass :judge:
Ya, I can do it. Do you have an innovative wideband?
Yep, it is a LC-1
built408
11-05-2008, 11:14 AM
ok cool, you can plug it into his dyno to read a/f
BlackGMC
11-05-2008, 12:26 PM
Sweet, do you know if it is a serial or analog input and how much is it, cause I will need to go to the ATM before. Can he do it on Thursday around 5ish?
05stepside
11-05-2008, 03:31 PM
i'll take you up on on that. my 3.42s like the highway:nod:
sweet and my 3.23s like the highway also :D
05stepside
11-05-2008, 03:32 PM
Why don't you make some runs? I got some slicks you can borrow.....
thanks for the offer but i cant take the chance of my G-80 going :bomb:
00ChevyScott
11-05-2008, 03:34 PM
thanks for the offer but i cant take the chance of my G-80 going :bomb:
good call, thats how lurius demolished his. :D
fastrt
11-05-2008, 05:49 PM
hey scott, I bet you will run a 9.5 now with those new gears!!:burn::poke:
dlt76028
11-05-2008, 06:05 PM
hey scott, I bet you will run a 9.5 now with those new gears!!:burn::poke:
yea and maybe a 75mph trap speed:jest:
00ChevyScott
11-05-2008, 08:09 PM
hey scott, I bet you will run a 9.5 now with those new gears!!:burn::poke:
I might be beating your RCSB times on slicks :thumb:
fastrt
11-05-2008, 08:23 PM
I might be beating your RCSB times on slicks :thumb:
i got somethin tucked away for a rainy day:secret2:
00ChevyScott
11-05-2008, 08:24 PM
i got somethin tucked away for a rainy day:secret2:
Good thing they close the track on rainy days then :D
dlt76028
11-05-2008, 10:16 PM
:funny:
BlackGMC
11-06-2008, 09:00 AM
Bump for the morning... I will be up there a little after 6ish... I will be bringing some a small cooler with Dr.P and Gatoraide as usual. Weather should be 65*!!! I hope they prep the track better this time, the burnout launches last time freaking sucked....
I am shooting for a 8.7 and a 1.9 60ft.... What is everyones elses goals....
BlackGMC
11-06-2008, 09:03 AM
Good thing they close the track on rainy days then :D
Speaking of rain, last night I was pissed at you, when it started raining at 2am, but on the other hand I was kinda glad cause it washed the crap off my dirty ass truck....
fastrt
11-06-2008, 09:21 AM
good luck fellas, and don't break anything....we need to go to ennis on the 15th and 22nd.
built408
11-06-2008, 12:14 PM
I am shooting for a 8.7 and a 1.9 60ft.... What is everyones elses goals....
Im hoping my truck will make it home on its own power...
built408
11-06-2008, 12:18 PM
Did you log the dyno runs last night? Does it show torque converter slip speed? If the converter was locked then it should show 0 for the whole run... If it was input speed (rpm) should match the output speed of the trans.
BlackGMC
11-06-2008, 12:32 PM
Yep i logged them, but I did not log those PIDs, damnit..... Next time I will be more prepared.....
BlackGMC
11-06-2008, 03:49 PM
Bump, Scott and I are meeting at Chicken Express around 5:30ish, if anyone else wants to join us...
00ChevyScott
11-06-2008, 03:53 PM
I'm hoping for a 9.1 or better.
maybe a 2.1 60 ft if I'm lucky. Still need a stall bad.
Also, my tranny was slipping at the top of 2nd gear really bad earlier today after doing some street racing last night. I hope it gets better by the time we go out there tonight!
dlt76028
11-06-2008, 04:17 PM
I am shooting for a 8.7 and a 1.9 60ft.... What is everyones elses goals....
1.9 60' 8.3ish... then on to 4.10s again:bang:
BlackGMC
11-06-2008, 04:18 PM
1.9 60' 8.3ish... then on to 4.10s again:bang:
I gotta do my 4.10s again too...... http://smiliesftw.com/x/shitstormretarded.gif
00ChevyScott
11-06-2008, 04:20 PM
I gotta do my 4.10s again too...... http://smiliesftw.com/x/shitstormretarded.gif
lol :D
It's gonna sound like an airport runway out there tonight :nod:
dlt76028
11-06-2008, 04:20 PM
http://smiliesftw.com/x/shitstormretarded.gif
lol you should be lord of the smilies
95 bright teal
11-06-2008, 04:21 PM
dlt76028, Why did you take your 4.10's out? i know its been talked about but i forget...
and BlackGMC are you still going to run tonight? with the gear issue
BlackGMC
11-06-2008, 04:22 PM
lol :D
It's gonna sound like an airport runway out there tonight :nod:
you should have heard them on the dyno last night.... Freaking sounded like a bus coming to a stop with metal on metal brakes....
dlt76028
11-06-2008, 04:23 PM
dlt76028, Why did you take your 4.10's out? i know its been talked about but i forget...
and BlackGMC are you still going to run tonight? with the gear issue
i was going through one of those demod and sell your truck thing....
00ChevyScott
11-06-2008, 04:24 PM
you should have heard them on the dyno last night.... Freaking sounded like a bus coming to a stop with metal on metal brakes....
maybe your 4.8 cubic inches busted up the gears :D
95 bright teal
11-06-2008, 04:25 PM
i was going through one of those demod and sell your truck thing....
That sucks, it will be interesting to see how much you pick up with them.
dlt76028
11-06-2008, 04:33 PM
That sucks, it will be interesting to see how much you pick up with them.
yea my 60' on my best run was 2.135 if i can get that down plus the 4.10shifting faster i see a 7.9 in my future
00ChevyScott
11-06-2008, 05:07 PM
headed over to chicken express now! see you guys out there
so far it looks like me, blackgmc, lurius, low dime, built 408, and dlt76028.
anyone else going?
ap2002
11-06-2008, 05:10 PM
have fun, be safe and report back with some good results!
dlt76028
11-06-2008, 09:53 PM
well i got both my goals. with the 3.42s and g80 i ran a
1.999 60'
8.391 1/8
84.78 mph
my mph is good for 12s i'm just wondering how much 4.10s and a trutrac would help?
had fun as usual guys...:cheers:
95 bright teal
11-06-2008, 10:03 PM
Congrats thats movin! did you spin at all?
dlt76028
11-06-2008, 10:09 PM
Congrats thats movin! did you spin at all?
no, i'm only reving to like 1200rpm off the line, it was hooking pretty good i just didnt get to many runs cuz i had to borrow a helmet from a hemi guy. lol
95 bright teal
11-06-2008, 10:12 PM
Cool, so there is still some left in the 60ft!
BlackGMC
11-06-2008, 10:19 PM
I got in a total of 13 runs, the truck ran consistant 8.80s all night long, 60s were all like 2.03s.... I ended up runing 3 8.70s....
Well i got 1 of my goals..... I still want that 1.9XX 60ft, maybe with slicks...
I am still on the fence about the LS6 intake, I need to do some more tuning.... BTW i was shiftting at 6600, previously I was shifting at 6400....
yea i dont know about that intake corey those numbers are pretty similar and you moved your shifts up higher...
regency
11-06-2008, 10:29 PM
but think of it this way!! It looks 10 times better and still performs like it should
BlackGMC
11-06-2008, 10:36 PM
yea i dont know about that intake corey those numbers are pretty similar and you moved your shifts up higher...
Yeah, i don't think it was worth it, perhaps a 1/4 pass would be different, but nothing really stands out to me...
but think of it this way!! It looks 10 times better and still performs like it should
Yep it does look better, and like i have said since the begining of the project, i was mainly going for looks.... At least i did not go slower!!!! Maybe heads will help wake it up???
00ChevyScott
11-06-2008, 10:45 PM
:bomb:
built408
11-06-2008, 10:46 PM
:funny:
BlackGMC
11-06-2008, 10:47 PM
:bomb:
Licking your wounds???? :punch: Sucks you could not get a decent run in.... How did it do on your way home?
If it makes you feel any better I have burnt rubber all over the back of my truck from all the burnouts....
00ChevyScott
11-06-2008, 10:50 PM
It drives fine as long as I'm nowhere near WOT. Although I think I can hear chunks of stuff moving around inside it when I'm idleing in park.
I'm so disappointed, first it was rain cancelling the last wed the track would be open, and now this.
A Low Dime
11-06-2008, 11:03 PM
Damn Corey, I didnt know you changed anything....:confused:
95 bright teal
11-07-2008, 12:02 AM
00ChevyScott what happened? did your tranny give out? whats the deal
A Low Dime
11-07-2008, 12:05 AM
00ChevyScott what happened? did your tranny give out? whats the deal
No, he drove it home, but lets just say, it went largely slower each pass, and apparently now he hears clunking. :barf:
But at least you beat that Mustang the night before :P If I remember the mustang owners words exactly :cry: "Come on man, one more race, I cant have a truck walk all over my mustang like that!!" :cry: LMAO
Lurius
11-07-2008, 07:16 AM
No, he drove it home, but lets just say, it went largely slower each pass, and apparently now he hears clunking. :barf:
But at least you beat that Mustang the night before :P If I remember the mustang owners words exactly :cry: "Come on man, one more race, I cant have a truck walk all over my mustang like that!!" :cry: LMAO
Haha, and in that squeeky prepubescent voice too.
-Lurius
fastrt
11-07-2008, 09:25 AM
nice times guys....man I gotta get me some parts on my truck....I am green with invious rage right now....I sucks being married at times like this.
BlackGMC
11-07-2008, 09:34 AM
nice times guys....man I gotta get me some parts on my truck....I am green with invious rage right now....I sucks being married at times like this.
you should have came out last night! the weather was great, and the stagging lane lines were really short...
fastrt
11-07-2008, 10:49 AM
yeah, I wanted to go just so busy right now. In 2 weeks maybe...
I sent the verter off yesterday, maybe I can get it inthe truck in time to get some 1/8th mile runs with it and 1/4 mile before and after.
ZO6Ted
11-07-2008, 12:11 PM
well i got both my goals. with the 3.42s and g80 i ran a
1.999 60'
8.391 1/8
84.78 mph
my mph is good for 12s i'm just wondering how much 4.10s and a trutrac would help?
had fun as usual guys...:cheers:
When I went from 3.42's to 4.10's, I went from 9.54 to 8.90 with no other changes and virtually identical weather. That was leaving at 2000 rpm as I recall. You've got a 7 second truck with stall and gears for sure.
dlt76028
11-07-2008, 05:33 PM
When I went from 3.42's to 4.10's, I went from 9.54 to 8.90 with no other changes and virtually identical weather. That was leaving at 2000 rpm as I recall. You've got a 7 second truck with stall and gears for sure.
wow i've never heard of anyone shaving 6 tenths with a gear swap? was alot of it in the 60'? how did your mph change? i would be happy with 3-4 tenths.
05stepside
11-07-2008, 07:06 PM
what happened to my 60 roll? jk congrats to everyone!
dlt76028
11-07-2008, 07:20 PM
what happened to my 60 roll? jk congrats to everyone!
dude i wanted to but then i remembered i had slicks on, 120+ with slicks isn't a good idea lol..
hurry up and get that posi so you can start runnin that thing
05stepside
11-07-2008, 07:25 PM
oh ill get it hopefully around x-mas and if your 3.42s are in good shape when you change them out let me know. i think they would be better than my 3.23s
built408
11-08-2008, 10:42 AM
dude i wanted to but then i remembered i had slicks on, 120+ with slicks isn't a good idea lol..
hurry up and get that posi so you can start runnin that thing
Ive been 145 runnin a cobra on slicks down 20, lol, probably wasn't a good idea
ZO6Ted
11-09-2008, 03:17 PM
wow i've never heard of anyone shaving 6 tenths with a gear swap? was alot of it in the 60'? how did your mph change? i would be happy with 3-4 tenths.
This was right after I got my truck from trt. It was running a 10 1/2 Vig. that would stall at 2500 at 5lbs. boost out of the hole. Felt like a total pig! :barf: Ran 5 1/5 lbs. down the track. I was very dissapointed in the times but it was a lot better than the 10.39 bone stock. Reviewed the slips, it appears the weather was actually a lot better the week before with the 3.42's. One week and $900.00 later, same driving technique. I was really pleased with the gear swap to say the least...drove like a totally different truck.
One more note, all my runs since I bought my truck new have been on the 20's.
fastrt
11-09-2008, 05:07 PM
One more note, all my runs since I bought my truck new have been on the 20's.
that sounds like all your mods were working together, can't change one thing without effecting another. I think he was referring to n/a apps.:)
ZO6Ted
11-09-2008, 07:29 PM
I Understand. The only other experience I had with a gear change was a gutted but still fairly heavy '77 Camaro with a 327 out of a 65 El Camino. (Hey, its all I could afford to run at the time). 2.73 gears, turbo 350 and NO torque it seemed. Changed to a 3.73 posi and dropped from a really horrible 10.8 (1/8) to a much better 9.8! That was almost 20 years ago now...thanks for the memories. :angel: