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silver-mod-o
08-27-2008, 01:35 PM
That it is definitely time for my little ole 5.3 to have some boost in its life.

The kit will be a full kbracing96 intercooled front mount. I know in the past, he's made hot parts to sell but I guess I have talked him into fabbing a full kit for me. It will be using the MP-T70 turbo and his choice of BOV and wastegate, 60lb injectors and a fresh 255 pump will also go in. I'm guessing the intercooler will be pretty healthy since he asked if I had a problem notching my front frame rails... I'm sure he can give all the rest of the specifics of the kit.

Ill be changing a few other things in the truck as well to compliment the turbo and to make it work better. Things like gears, converter, cam and fuel system... I've been feeling the itch for a while now and after seeing and driving/riding in chracold-bowtie's trick turbo'd 4.8 truck, I couldn't help myself.

Kyle, be looking for that payment in the next day or two so you can get hoppin on the fab work. Thanks for your help so far and I'm sure help in the coming months as I get this thing dialed in... send/post pics as you can Kyle... I'll be eager to see how everything is coming along.

Oh, and Colton... Damn you lol... My wallet hates being around your truck :)

I'm sure a lot of you have already seen bits and pieces of this build scattered around the site. I figured I'd put it in one place and make it a little easier to follow.

Here's the basics:
Its going to be a custom fabbed complete front mount turbo kit using an MP T-70 turbo and one of Kyles proven heavy duty log manifolds. It will also utilize a sizeable air/air intercooler.

The truck its going on I'm sure a lot of you are probably familiar with. Its my 2000 2WD ECSB 5.3 truck. Raceweight of this truck even after the turbo kit should be between 4000 and 4100lbs. This truck was previously setup to run on nitrous and a Harris Speedworks wet kit which did well... But I'm ready for HP you don't have to fill up.

I've already started making changes to help the turbo work better. Went back to some 3.73 gears vs my old 4.10s and already had a custom turbo cam specd out for me. A new walbro 255 pump has also been ordered to replace my current one, which will feed 60# injectors. A bolt in C-notch and caltracs will be going out back to help with traction, I'm sure that's going to be a battle. I will be putting the power through the Finish Line Level 5 4L65E Transmission and Yank SS3600 torque converter that I have been running for a while now. The converter size and type is subject to change though... I'd rather not be hard in the boost leaving every redlight :jest:

There you have it, I'm looking for solid 11s out of this combo. The motor has almost 130K miles on it so I'm sure you'll be seeing another build thread from me soon lol. But who knows, sometimes these motors last freakishly long under some serious abuse.

Kyle, throw any info and/or pics you can in here.

Mods, can you link my other threads from the f/i and drivetrain/suspension sections in here if ya get a chance. I can't do that from my PDA.

thunder550
08-27-2008, 01:48 PM
Congrats man! You'll be happy, Kyle does great work once he gets motivated to actually get out and do something! The motivation is the hard part :jest:

silver-mod-o
08-27-2008, 01:56 PM
I have no doubts that ill be happy with the kit... I'm going to get the hot side coated here in tx and probaly powdercoat the cold side myself. If someone would cut me a deal on all the coating I'd be inclined to have it all done in one place though.

Install is still a while away so I have to keep reminding myself to take it easy and be patient... I still have to get a beater to drive around and take my truck off the road for a week or so to make all the changes... A rcsb 4cyl 5spd S-10 would do the trick I'm sure...

nonnieselman
08-27-2008, 04:53 PM
Bout time Ben, Your goin to really love it.
Colton sent me a scan of his truck the other day.. his Trans Temps skyrocketed and he said he might have a problem... I know the feeling..

Go with some 3.42s.. the converter you have in there now would work. but my goodness it would flash to 5000.. :devil:
Cool thing is, its like nitrous that never turns off or runs out..

kbracing96
08-27-2008, 06:00 PM
Thank you guys! Not a problem Ben ;)

FYI Guys, I'm going to be make a limited production run of full intercooled kits like this one, at a great price. :) Look for a thread in the sponsor product section shortly.

trever1t
08-27-2008, 06:02 PM
Way to go! It sounds way cool and I'm sure Kyle will good care of you. :judge:

silver-mod-o
08-27-2008, 06:16 PM
I've had a couple offers to swap for TT3000 converters. Ill most likely step back down to some 3.73 or 3.90 gears. The problem with the TT series is the fact that its not billet. I swore to myself I'd never run another converter that wasn't billet... I believe the front cover flexes too much... Causing input and pump failure. I have been considering just going with a brand new 3000 PI 5 disk and being done with it. I love my SS3600... But driving that converter on the street with boost would get annoying. Not to mention a ton of wear and tear on everything behind it...

I'm open to suggestions guys as far as the rest of the drivetrain... Like I told Kyle on the phone, I'm not even going to play like I know everything about setting up a turbo vehicle correctly. I know the basics which will put me headed in the right direction but all the specifics are up in the air. This will be quite a learning experience...

nonnieselman
08-27-2008, 06:23 PM
I loved my TT3000... it was plenty tight to drive every day and it would have been super fun if i had nailed down my tune..

It depends on your tire size as to what gear ratio.. but you know that.. I like my 3.42s.. haha

silver-mod-o
08-27-2008, 06:38 PM
I'm sure the characteristics of the TT3000 are what I'm looking for... But I don't know about the strength of that converter. And I wouldn't mind locking this one up at WOT unlike my Yank, which I never have done... The multi disk converter makes me feel a little more confident about that... Ask anyone who has seen my lockup settings in HPT. I baby the lockup in this thing...

nonnieselman
08-27-2008, 06:42 PM
I'm sure the characteristics of the TT3000 are what I'm looking for... But I don't know about the strength of that converter. And I wouldn't mind locking this one up at WOT unlike my Yank, which I never have done... The multi disk converter makes me feel a little more confident about that... Ask anyone who has seen my lockup settings in HPT. I baby the lockup in this thing...

Screw it,, go 80E and be done with it... haha
If i had to do it all over again, i would start out with a 80E. Would have saved me alot of time and headache..

And if you have ever seen the 80E converter.. you could lock that monster up any time and it would laugh at you...

silver-mod-o
08-27-2008, 06:52 PM
I've already sunk the money into this FLT 65E... And I must say I really have enjoyed this transmission since I put it in in March 07. It hasn't missed a beat yet...ill probably do a freshen up and different converter and run it till it goes... Whenever that is.

charcold-bowtie
08-27-2008, 07:01 PM
welcome. Send me some money too. my converter is out again, and probly trashed my whole trans for the summer. I dont have any times or anything like that, but i personally hate the feeling of the locked converter under boost. I dont know why. mine is set up to unlock at high speeds with pretty much any touch of the throttle. but, trap speed etc may be better the other way, i cant keep a trans behind mine long enough to know anything and ive been boosted for 4 months.....

silver-mod-o
08-27-2008, 07:16 PM
Well from the results I've seen, locking the converter loads the turbo better for a little better trap speeds. I'm going to have to experiment and it will be a trial and error kinda thing. Who knows at this point... I could be totally off.

BlackGMC
08-27-2008, 07:29 PM
Congrats man!!!! I am really jealous!!!


my converter is out again, and probly trashed my whole trans for the summer.

http://smiliesftw.com/x/shitbricks.gif

charcold-bowtie
08-27-2008, 07:41 PM
I mean at around 70. You have full boost locked as soon as you touch the pedal. I dont know if there is any advantage for load after your at full boost. Seems there wouldnt be any.

silver-mod-o
08-27-2008, 07:46 PM
True... Like I said... It will be a trial an error thing at the track... I'm looking for a high 11 out if it. I think that will be pretty easily attainable.

ZR1 DREAMING
08-27-2008, 09:43 PM
Congrats again. I'm jealous Ben!!

Oh well, I'll still spray right by your "turbo truck". :poke:

LOL... when it's finally running steady again that is :eyes:

SLO TRUCK
08-27-2008, 10:13 PM
Nice, man congrats I'm`looking to get boosted by the end of the year.

silver-mod-o
08-27-2008, 10:24 PM
bring it beeotch... that awd pig is gonna need a hell of alot of bottle.... if it even makes it down the track... LMAO

ZR1 DREAMING
08-27-2008, 11:40 PM
bring it beeotch... that awd pig is gonna need a hell of alot of bottle.... if it even makes it down the track... LMAO

By bring it do you mean a tow strap to haul away your truck after you blow up that 120k mi stock 5.3???
:chug:

silver-mod-o
08-27-2008, 11:43 PM
nah.... I mean bring it, as in... bring a dustpan and broom to clean up after yourself after the 1/8 mile... and also, the broom to run out small animals who have built a home in that dormant hunk of a truck in the past couple years... lol...pigeons like to build homes in things that dont move much...

ZR1 DREAMING
08-27-2008, 11:47 PM
nah.... I mean bring it, as in... bring a dustpan and broom to clean up after yourself after the 1/8 mile... and also, the broom to run out small animals who have built a home in that dormant hunk of a truck in the past couple years... lol...pigeons like to build homes in things that dont move much...

LOL... yeah Blake says a homeless guy moved in the engine bay while I was gone :eek2:

WJ MARK
08-29-2008, 06:45 AM
Just out of curiousity??? You rode in charcold-bowtie's truck with a Trick Kit and decided to go with KB's kit??????? Any reason for that??

silver-mod-o
08-29-2008, 09:12 AM
No particular reason other than price... KB is setting me up with an intercooled kit for considerably less. I don't believe there's any quality difference either... Plus the MP-T70 is proven with this displacement, and slightly larger...

I'm not in any way saying Trick's kit is not worth the money or its not a great setup... But why spend more when you can get basically the identical kit for less... Plus a bigger intercooler, and custom built piping etc etc... It just makes sense to me.

WJ MARK
08-29-2008, 06:49 PM
Is the I/C piping steel ??? Not knocking KB's stuff just curious:chug:

kbracing96
08-29-2008, 08:00 PM
Is the I/C piping steel ??? Not knocking KB's stuff just curious:chug:

Ya, All the tubing will be aluminized steel like what is on my truck and Thunder550. This is a "budget" type kit. Don't make me come down there and put a whoopin on you with my "stuff" :jest:

Stoichiometric
08-29-2008, 08:09 PM
Turbos are cool. You'll love the power. What will the exhaust housing be for the 5.3?

kbracing96
08-29-2008, 08:37 PM
Turbos are cool. You'll love the power. What will the exhaust housing be for the 5.3?

Probable gona go with a .96 since he wants to use this setup on the next (bigger) motor he builds for it. If it's too laggy, can always swap it for a smaller one, there not to much $$$.

silver-mod-o
08-29-2008, 08:45 PM
I have no doubt i'll love it... I just need to get going on the rest of my setup and change some things.... gears, converter, and cam most of all...

plus, everything will be getting coated prior to being put on the truck... hot side in ceramic, and cold side with powdercoating...

this motor wont be in the truck long either I'd venture to say... I'll most likely be going with an iron 5.7 early next year...

silver-mod-o
08-30-2008, 08:16 PM
Well the first change will be underway shortly... My room mate wants 4.10's for his Z-71... And I want 3.73s for mine. So, we are just going to swap entire rearends. He will just do the fronts and be in buisness. It has a G80 now but will be changed for a true-trac. The rear he is getting has a yukon locker and axles... So he will be giving me a couple hundo for the rear, so thatll cover my diff swap. I think its a good trade... Plus his rear has less miles.

v8
08-30-2008, 09:01 PM
good deal ben, let me know when the tuneing going to start and we can work on it!

7845
08-31-2008, 01:09 AM
No particular reason other than price... KB is setting me up with an intercooled kit for considerably less. I don't believe there's any quality difference either... Plus the MP-T70 is proven with this displacement, and slightly larger...

I'm not in any way saying Trick's kit is not worth the money or its not a great setup... But why spend more when you can get basically the identical kit for less... Plus a bigger intercooler, and custom built piping etc etc... It just makes sense to me.

i agree both kits are very similar and results wil lbe same. theyre both copy cats of others which is fine.
also agree on price thing.

Kyles setup is nice and i think the weld els are better then just tubing for a manifold

WJ MARK
08-31-2008, 10:08 AM
Ya, All the tubing will be aluminized steel like what is on my truck and Thunder550. This is a "budget" type kit. Don't make me come down there and put a whoopin on you with my "stuff" :jest:

Bring it pal! :devil: ,LOL!! J/K. I think you have a great kit! Nothing wrong with how you are making it. :chug:

TrickPerformanceProducts
08-31-2008, 02:27 PM
We have not copied any ones kits. I spent several months tweeking angles to get the kit to look and fit the way I think it should. We use stainless steel so no coatings are needed.
We have even took to having the manifold pipe bent out of one pc instead of welding 2 together. We added a flex joint to keep stress low.
We offer upgrades to larger DP, and the kits bolt up with no other mods to the piping. We put the gate down low to keep things clean in the engine compartment.
We tig weld and gas purged, not mig welded.
We use factor type ORING gaskets on the crossover.
WE offer a warranty.
Our intercooler kits come with Aluminum that is beed rolled at our shop. So no rusting nor pipes blowing off. Mounts easily in to the truck with no cutting or notching frame rails. Its plenty large for most appilcaitons, and is always upgradable with out notching from 3.5 to 4.5 or 6.0" thick cores.
So far I have read the kits are the same, the quality is the same and they we will perform the same. Our kits are not the freaking same.
Last I look Kyles pipes where not completed from crossover to downpipe and they needed coatings not to rust.
Trick has been building kits now for almost 3 years to the public. In that time we have had 1 manifold with an issue, only one. So saying that weld Ls are a better choice is just an opinion. If someone wants a set of pipes built from carbon steel, no problem. Also no warranty either..

I am glad to see more and more people getting into the boosted world, and hope your built goes well. I am also glad Colton took you for a ride in his truck to show you waht you where missing, and the fun these trucks are while boosted.

Rick

charcold-bowtie
08-31-2008, 03:40 PM
I dont think a direct comparison is fair to either side. Let alone the cost of the different materials, they are different kits. Ive dealt with both parties with good success but no good can come out of this. Perhaps thats why the price wasnt mentioned........

7845
08-31-2008, 03:54 PM
you can say you invented the wheel thats fine but look who was the first atleast the first real known person to be a boosted truck...Parish his kit was what alot of others are based off. things might be tweaked but in the end its still the same design. livernois offers a simlar kit as well.

as for stainless and not rusting. a lower grade stainless will rust. as for coatings its all in owners preference if they choose to coat SS or MS.

as for performance the same idea is used so similar results if used in same application. its also normal for a manufactor to be alittle touchy on a subject when their work is compared to someone elses especially when hte product is lesser cost.

in the end it comes down to what the public wants. in this case the OP went with Kyles kit.

SLO TRUCK
08-31-2008, 04:06 PM
I think its all in what you want. They both know their shit.

TurboBerserker
08-31-2008, 04:29 PM
To say all truck based turbo kits are a copy of "Parish's" kit (which was built by a company in NV, not Jim -- although he did make the logs for his twin kit) is just plain silly -- number one, Jim was not the first boosted truck -- he was just the first to run ridiculously fast on this site in a NBS chevy.

There are only so many ways to get exhaust into the exhaust housing. Every kit is different based on the manufacturer's best ideas (barring those unscrupulous knock off guys on e-bay).

Let's keep this thread about Silver-mod-o's turbo build.

silver-mod-o
08-31-2008, 04:32 PM
I don't know what you were trying to accomplish with that post Rick... A lot of the things you mentioned are preference. I already said, yours is a great kit. I don't think anyone is knocking anything you're doing. I'm not, I don't believe Kyle is either.

The basics are, he's a sponsor, you're a sponsor. I chose to go with him... A lot of it has to do with pricing. Not product. I appreciate all of your help in the past and hope that we can do business again in the future.

TrickPerformanceProducts
08-31-2008, 06:38 PM
I was stating my opinion thats all, too many times I here this is the same that is the same, (not just turbo stuff) I just freak some times,:) long hours.LOL. And yes I know price is a huge factor in many decisions the tax alone would have a huge difference..
I am glad you got into boosted world and hope all goes well.. I do not want anyone to take my statement as I was the first turboing trucks. Shit that goes to the deisel guys. and absolutly sure hit me up any time about anything.
Kyle is a good guy and I have delt with him in the past and will in the future.

kbracing96
08-31-2008, 07:21 PM
No need to get worked up fellas. :lol: Like I have always stated, my kits or geared more for the budget do-it-yourselfer, who doesn't have the time or means to build there own kit, but wants to save few bucks. BOTH kits I believe are well made and make great power. For the most part, boost is boost, and I don't think either kit really has a performance advantage. The biggest difference is in material of the two kits. Tricks is stainless and aluminum, where mine is steel. Steel is cheaper and easier to work with, and that makes it cheaper to produce a kit. It can be coated for rust protection, but the aluminized, coated steel tubing I use was developed for exhaust systems to resist corrosion and prolong the life of the tubing. Is one way better then the other??? That's all in the buyer perspective and opinion.

silver-mod-o
08-31-2008, 08:31 PM
Well put Kyle, and Rick both of you make excellent points... I don't want this to go south fellas. Thanks.

southern_chevy
08-31-2008, 10:35 PM
Cant wait to see it all put together. Im sure it will be a great kit.

ZR1 DREAMING
09-01-2008, 11:40 AM
This thread was started to share silver-mod-o's project, not to start a product comparo battle. Start another thread if you guys aren't done and keep this one on track.

SLO TRUCK
09-02-2008, 12:13 AM
silver-mod-o or KB racing where is our up dates?

silver-mod-o
09-04-2008, 07:45 AM
I've kinda been held up as far as payment due to the hurricane down here along with getting laid off at work this past week... No worries though, everything is still on track... I'm just waiting on an update myself from Kyle. I'm sure he will let me know something as soon as he can. He always does. :)

silver-mod-o
09-08-2008, 11:18 PM
And I can honestly say I don't regret it. I think it will be a little easier to hook up this way and still have enough converter to get it out of the hole half ass decent. Honestly, the SS3600 feels nice with the 3.73s

I swapped my entire rear for a stock 03' Z71 rear with the G-80. I plan on throwing a tru-trac in this one and calling it good... I finally have a rear with no leaks lol.

All of this is being done in prep for my turbo build. I'm going to try this converter out with boost to see how it does.... Might end up with a 3K or so. This one will flash like crazy hahaha :burn:

My mileage should get better too, I dropped sevral hundred RPM on the hwy.

Mangled03gmc
09-08-2008, 11:29 PM
Sounds good, a turbo likes to tug on a taller gear anywhoo.. Good luck

John

silver-mod-o
09-08-2008, 11:58 PM
Yeah, I mainly did it to load the turbo better and still manage a decent 60ft before I have full boost. Everything else is just icing on that cake.... I have a set of 3.42s sitting here, if these don't work out, those will go in...

I enjoyed doing a WOT run earlier and not shifting out of 2nd till almost 95mph lol... Top end pull is much better even on motor.

454navyss
09-09-2008, 03:43 PM
what happened to your other rear end? i have some 3.73s and a true-trac sitting in my room for my truck. my truck right now with the 3.42s and 5800 shiftpoints shifts into third at about 90mph.

and post some pics of that front mount setup

ZR1 DREAMING
09-09-2008, 04:20 PM
Good shit Ben, glad to see your progress is going in a positive direction.

I look forward to flying/driving down for the turbo install :cheers:

Silver-Dollar
09-09-2008, 06:08 PM
I thought about switching to 3.73 as well.

silver-mod-o
09-09-2008, 06:45 PM
I think if you have the power and converter then its a good move... If it weren't for this turbo build I probably wouldn't have done it. I am glad now that I have.... Next is the true-trac

nonnieselman
09-09-2008, 06:50 PM
with that converter 3.42s would still be good.. I tuned my buddys 07 that has a 5.3 and 3.23s.. shifting at 6000rpms 2-3 was at 104mph.. didn't get to check the speedo with GPS but it can't off by much.
mine shifts 2-3 at 5800 and that's 93mph.. :) gotta love the 80E..
I can't wait for you to get that kit and move back to east TX.. I wanna come check it out then.
I

aarolar
09-09-2008, 07:16 PM
So on this thought do you think 4.11's are too much on just motor with a stock converter? I was thinking about going 4.11's when I did my rear but I keep seeing stories about people going back. I realize a turbo was involved here but you should also have an idea about all motor... So 3.73, 3.90 or 4.11? BTW I will be running a 125-150 shot for a while but sometime in the future a turbo is in the works...:D

KevinF56
09-09-2008, 07:33 PM
i want that SS3600 :D

silver-mod-o
09-09-2008, 10:05 PM
Jonathan, I'm already back in east tx. You should come out my way for the install party lol. I touched base with Kyle today and fabrication of my kit should be in full swing.

Carey, I traded the rear, now its in that Z71... There should be some pics up soon.

Kevin, I'm going to just see how this things going to act, who knows, it may be up for sale soon.

Aarolar, I had a 150 shot on this truck for a long time and if I had to do it again, I'd go with some 3.90s.... Just my preference.

Jordan.... The beer will be cold bro... Just let me know. :nod:

silver-mod-o
09-10-2008, 06:56 AM
UPDATE:

Talked to Kyle yesterday and as soon as the mailman brings him his Christmas bonus check, hopefully by the end of the week, production and fab of my kit will be in full swing....

Don't forget, PICTURES Kyle, PICTURES :jest:

95 bright teal
09-10-2008, 07:58 AM
Sweet! should be a good build, cant wait to see it.
Yep job market sucks ive been in and out of work all year, but what can you do.

glad to hear its rolling, so what happens when you take the lightest ecsb ive ever seen and throw some boost at it....:devil:

silver-mod-o
09-10-2008, 08:26 AM
Well the job market here actually isn't that bad, its just the nature of what I do. I'm never out of work for more than a week unless I choose to...When a job winds down, they let a ton of ppl go. This time I have chosen fishing over 12hr work days :jest: ill probably give them a call and go back on Monday.

I know the kit will probably add quite a bit of weight back to the truck but I'm shooting to keep it under 4050 from where it is now... I'm just shooting for solid 11s out if the 130K mile 5.3... Traction will be the next hurdle as always... Caltracs and some good size slicks hopefully cure that though.

Last Call
09-10-2008, 08:46 AM
... I know the kit will probably add quite a bit of weight back to the truck but I'm shooting to keep it under 4050 from where it is now.......

Did you say 4050 for an ECSB? Or did you mean 5050?

silver-mod-o
09-10-2008, 08:55 AM
Nope, you read that right bud, four thousand, fifty :nod: maybe 4100 depending on what all I add. These weights are without me in the truck (about 230) check out the weight sticky in the drag racing section...

95 bright teal
09-10-2008, 08:58 AM
haha i love everyones reaction to your weight...gets them every time

silver-mod-o
09-10-2008, 09:29 AM
Hahaha, yeah, as far as I know I have the lightest extended cab on the site... Which isn't necessarily my goal, just worked out that way. Its a result of many hours laying under this thing with a cutoff wheel saying to myself.... Eh, I don't really need that. Lol...

Last Call
09-10-2008, 09:53 AM
Nope, you read that right bud, four thousand, fifty :nod: maybe 4100 depending on what all I add. These weights are without me in the truck (about 230) check out the weight sticky in the drag racing section...

Holy cow!!! With a turbo kit, you are going to go really fast. With the 5.3, I think low 11's are within reach.

Want to come to Cali with your cut off wheel and put my truck on a diet? That is great. Any pictures of the interior?

kbracing96
09-10-2008, 10:05 AM
Cool deal :) Hot side is mostly done, soon as the big brown truck gets here, I'll be a busy man, and pics to follow :)

silver-mod-o
09-10-2008, 10:20 AM
Sa-weet! Lol... Thanks for the update Kyle. I keep my blackberry on PT.net so ill be checking for updates and browsing in general. Actually, this is the only way I have to access the site, still haven't hooked up all my BS at home lol. May go to town later and rob some wireless with my laptop :jest:

LC, I don't have any pics of the interior, stripped or otherwise, maybe I need to? Lol. Its nothing special.

ZR1 DREAMING
09-10-2008, 10:45 AM
Its a result of many hours laying under this thing with a cutoff wheel saying to myself.... Eh, I don't really need that. Lol...

Ahhh... memories... LOL. Gotta give some credit to the sawzall too;)

silver-mod-o
09-10-2008, 01:19 PM
Hahaha, no shit, we got rid of that stock exhaust about 10 inches at a time starting with the tailpipe... "Man, cut that shit back a little farther, I can still see the pipe" :jest:

454navyss
09-10-2008, 03:44 PM
free cold beer this weekend? i might have to make a trip down there for that!

my gears and posi are going in friday and supposed to go to the track friday night or saturday if it doesnt rain.

silver-mod-o
09-10-2008, 07:02 PM
Just make sure you break all that stuff in before you go beating on it. There's free beer here every weekend... But the turbo won't be going in for a couple weeks...

95 bright teal
09-10-2008, 09:16 PM
people are going crazy in alot of threads you posted in about your weight im loving it, you have got me thinking, i actually spent some time under the truck too!!!

nonnieselman
09-10-2008, 09:40 PM
inside of his truck looks bout like mine... full of junk.. haha atleast it did a few weeks ago when we went cruising around.

silver-mod-o
09-10-2008, 11:59 PM
Who's questioning me??? I have my weight tickets somewhere around here... I can either scan or take a pic of them... I think the last scale I went to that had a ticket print out had me at about 4080 or so... It was over a year ago so I honestly don't remember.

Lol, yeah jonathan, that's what happens when your play truck turns into your work truck.

nonnieselman
09-11-2008, 12:55 AM
Lol, yeah jonathan, that's what happens when your play truck turns into your work truck.

I know all too well....

Spoolin
09-11-2008, 02:22 AM
I did the same thing and I don't regret it one bit!! WOT in 2nd gear is 105mph!! :D
Can't go wrong IMO to load a turbo. I go through the gears just as fast now as I did with the 4.10's the only difference is the speedometer is hard to keep up with! :jest:

silver-mod-o
09-11-2008, 07:37 AM
I'm hoping to have the same problem watching the speedo :nod:

v8
09-11-2008, 07:46 AM
sounds good ben.

thunder550
09-11-2008, 09:40 AM
silver-mod-o's update from another thread that was merged into this one....

I'm sure a lot of you have already seen bits and pieces of this build scattered around the site. I figured I'd put it in one place and make it a little easier to follow.

Here's the basics:
Its going to be a custom fabbed complete front mount turbo kit using an MP T-70 turbo and one of Kyles proven heavy duty log manifolds. It will also utilize a sizeable air/air intercooler.

The truck its going on I'm sure a lot of you are probably familiar with. Its my 2000 2WD ECSB 5.3 truck. Raceweight of this truck even after the turbo kit should be between 4000 and 4100lbs. This truck was previously setup to run on nitrous and a Harris Speedworks wet kit which did well... But I'm ready for HP you don't have to fill up.

I've already started making changes to help the turbo work better. Went back to some 3.73 gears vs my old 4.10s and already had a custom turbo cam specd out for me. A new walbro 255 pump has also been ordered to replace my current one, which will feed 60# injectors. A bolt in C-notch and caltracs will be going out back to help with traction, I'm sure that's going to be a battle. I will be putting the power through the Finish Line Level 5 4L65E Transmission and Yank SS3600 torque converter that I have been running for a while now. The converter size and type is subject to change though... I'd rather not be hard in the boost leaving every redlight

There you have it, I'm looking for solid 11s out of this combo. The motor has almost 130K miles on it so I'm sure you'll be seeing another build thread from me soon lol. But who knows, sometimes these motors last freakishly long under some serious abuse.

Kyle, throw any info and/or pics you can in here.

Mods, can you link my other threads from the f/i and drivetrain/suspension sections in here if ya get a chance. I can't do that from my PDA.

silver-mod-o
09-11-2008, 12:47 PM
Thanks Chris... Ill keep all my info in here. I should have some pics soon.

charcold-bowtie
09-11-2008, 01:14 PM
Sounds like its goin good there. Now send money to thunder for the dec 13th meet. Also, what did you do about the front end of the z-71. I mean i saw that roomate and he was like 7'0 and 350 lbs. I would hate to piss him off lol.

ZR1 DREAMING
09-11-2008, 01:49 PM
I should have some pics soon.

Pics or BAN:judge:

silver-mod-o
09-11-2008, 01:55 PM
Colton, he got his gears done yesterday. Everythings good there, I'm not a small guy, but he's a huge SOB... Yeah, just spent that money on a fuel pump lol... At least its going to be used for something thatll come in handy in Dec. Ill paypal him that as soon as I go back to work.

The ball is rolling, slowly, but its rolling.

charcold-bowtie
09-12-2008, 02:22 PM
lol he is a big bastard. Good luck with the projects, then Im gonna come race you with my piece, my tuner sucks lol (me)

silver-mod-o
09-12-2008, 05:16 PM
You gotta get a trans and converter in that thing that will last more than 2wks :jest:

99Silverado5.3
09-15-2008, 05:14 PM
Good luck with the build. :judge:

What rwhp are you looking for on the 5.3?

silver-mod-o
09-16-2008, 12:11 AM
I'd be happy with mid 500s out of this motor, at sea level basically with a solid tune I don't think that will be too crazy to shoot for. With anything 5.7 or above fresh and forged, I'd be looking for 600 or better easily...

silver-mod-o
09-18-2008, 12:37 PM
Any new updates Kyle???

kbracing96
09-18-2008, 01:42 PM
I'm still waiting on parts I ordered first of last week! :( The company screwed up on where to ship them.

silver-mod-o
09-18-2008, 02:02 PM
Just got your voicemail Kyle. No problem at all man...

thunder550
09-18-2008, 02:12 PM
Yes....not only did they ship the parts to Kyle at my house instead of his place in Wyoming, they also shipping the wrong box. I got a 5 lb box marked at 130 lbs that had 4 1.75" 180 degree mandrel bends. I'm pretty sure your piping is gonna be bigger than that :jest: The paypal receipt inside had some guy in Michigan as the recipient. Oops.

silver-mod-o
09-18-2008, 09:05 PM
Damn, I sure hope its bigger than that lmao... I'm not turbo'ing my lawnmower :jest:

nonnieselman
09-18-2008, 09:38 PM
Damn, I sure hope its bigger than that lmao... I'm not turbo'ing my lawnmower :jest:

WE NEED PICS!!!

silver-mod-o
09-18-2008, 09:47 PM
Kyle sent me one on my phone already... I tried to forward It to you actually but it wouldn't go thru, and I can't get it to upload from my blackberry.... Bunch of misc stuff though all ready to go.

silver-mod-o
09-19-2008, 03:44 PM
bought some stuff today from Summit... Im already getting the pyrometer gague from another member so I only ordered the thermo coupling kit, and I just bought a triple column pod from a guy here today as well.... this should help me keep an eye on things.

still looking for a wideband though...

ZR1 DREAMING
09-19-2008, 08:20 PM
looks like you're well on your way bro :thumb:

Spoolin
09-19-2008, 08:37 PM
Kyle will hook you up with a wide band as well!!! :judge:

silver-mod-o
09-19-2008, 09:15 PM
Hmmmm, he may just be getting even more of my money lol... A wideband and injectors are the only things I have left to actually purchase. Everything else should start showing up here next week... The kit soon to follow.

charcold-bowtie
09-19-2008, 09:50 PM
your going with 60 lbers arnt you. I would either get a lc-1 from kyle or my prefered plx.

silver-mod-o
09-19-2008, 09:57 PM
Yeah, I had considered some 44# injectors just for me to get with the tuning and ease me into it on about 5psi... Then go to the 60s so I have room to grow.... But most are saying just to start out with 60s and be done with it. That's what ill most likely do, just looking for a decent deal on the injectors...

How much are those PLXs? Do they offer a white face gague that will match everything else?

nonnieselman
09-19-2008, 10:00 PM
Yeah, I had considered some 44# injectors just for me to get with the tuning and ease me into it on about 5psi... Then go to the 60s so I have room to grow.... But most are saying just to start out with 60s and be done with it. That's what ill most likely do, just looking for a decent deal on the injectors...

How much are those PLXs? Do they offer a white face gague that will match everything else?


44s will get you by.. you should be able to go 7psi with them..
Randy said he got a PLX for $269..

If i cant get my new LC-1 to work when i get home, im goin with a PLX..
I had one go for almost 2 years with out a problem, then it started jumping around on me so i ordered a new one.. It dont work.. :bang:

charcold-bowtie
09-19-2008, 10:10 PM
just go with 60's and be done. No the plx gauge is black. my 43lb injectors are at 85 percent at 9 psi upper rpm level.

the plx and its gauge can be had for 200 for the wideband and 50 for the gauge. I got mine off of ebay.

nonnieselman
09-19-2008, 10:46 PM
just go with 60's and be done. No the plx gauge is black. my 43lb injectors are at 85 percent at 9 psi upper rpm level.

the plx and its gauge can be had for 200 for the wideband and 50 for the gauge. I got mine off of ebay.

my 44s are at 86% on 5psi on the ole 6L.. haha
So on the 5.3 you should be inbetween us...

dang i just spent $289 on a LC1 and gauge..:bang:

kbracing96
09-19-2008, 10:58 PM
How about one of these Ben...

http://www.innovatemotorsports.com/products/images/G4_kit.jpg

charcold-bowtie
09-19-2008, 11:08 PM
analog FTW, although it is whitefaced.

nonnieselman
09-20-2008, 12:25 AM
How about one of these Ben...

http://www.innovatemotorsports.com/products/images/G4_kit.jpg



I almsot bought that one but black faced...

i went with the DB series blue.. its cool, if it worked... haha

silver-mod-o
09-20-2008, 06:47 AM
I was looking for the sweeping leds and digital display but something tells me that one won't be near as "in your face" and just as easy to read... I'm sure I could put that one in the steering column pod and it would still be visible enough... How much we talkin Kyle??? I do like the fact that it will go with everything else, but I hope it doesn't give me problems like Jonathans...

BlackGMC
09-20-2008, 10:25 AM
How about one of these Ben...

http://www.innovatemotorsports.com/products/images/G4_kit.jpg


I have the same one and love it!!! I even bought it from KB

kbracing96
09-20-2008, 10:55 AM
Something more like this? It's more money though, it's a digital gauge instead of analog and has some more programmable features.

http://www.innovatemotorsports.com/images/web1.jpg

He's the link for some more info on it. I'll PM you prices on both. :)

http://www.innovatemotorsports.com/products/xd16.php

ZR1 DREAMING
09-20-2008, 11:47 AM
Something more like this? It's more money though, it's a digital gauge instead of analog and has some more programmable features.

http://www.innovatemotorsports.com/images/web1.jpg

He's the link for some more info on it. I'll PM you prices on both. :)

http://www.innovatemotorsports.com/products/xd16.php

I like that one better:cool:

silver-mod-o
09-20-2008, 04:57 PM
I'm actually still diggin the cheapie :jest: ill give ya a call or txt kyle... I'm gonna read on them a bit.

charcold-bowtie
09-21-2008, 10:55 PM
How much money over-budget are you lol. Makes you start to believe the, " expect to spend an extra grand" slogan.
The gauges, turbo blankets, coatings, heat wrap,,,,,,, dam I want it all.

silver-mod-o
09-21-2008, 11:03 PM
What's a budget???? Lol

Just found some injectors too.
I'm somewhere around $5500 so far... I think I found a less expensive alternative for a coating too... We will see though after I do some more homework on it.

nonnieselman
09-21-2008, 11:07 PM
but I hope it doesn't give me problems like Jonathans...

Im good at screwing stuff up tho.....

Stoichiometric
09-21-2008, 11:08 PM
What's a budget???? Lol

Just found some injectors too.
I'm somewhere around $5500 so far... I think I found a less expensive alternative for a coating too... We will see though after I do some more homework on it.

Interested, what are you looking at?

silver-mod-o
09-21-2008, 11:10 PM
Ill PM you stoich

silver-mod-o
09-21-2008, 11:50 PM
Looks like ill be using a set of siemens 60# injectors thanks to Blown Chevy for hookin me up on those!!

7845
09-21-2008, 11:52 PM
i coated all my hot stuff in rustoleum bbq black. ive seen 25psi spike and 19psi and all my coatings are still on the hot sides. just little duller but still looks as good as before. i highly recomend this stuff!!!!!!!!!!! the paint can be found at homedepot

silver-mod-o
09-23-2008, 06:12 AM
Sent funda yesterday to Kyle and to Blown Chevy for a wideband setup and for those Siemens Decka 60# injectors, and ordered new injector plugs from Summit... Now all I have to do is sit around here and bite my nails until all this shit shows up, lol

I'd like to have all the guages and fuel pump in by the time the kit gets here so I've got less to do staring me in the face... Hopefully I can get this thing in and at least "running" in a weekend, the torque converter is my next obstacle

silver-mod-o
09-23-2008, 03:43 PM
also on the way... they guy I had previously ordered my fuel pump from called and said they were out of stock, so I just ordered this one from Summit... little more expensive... but if it works, it works.


I keep trying to hide from myself the fact that theres a converter and cam swap looming on the horizon... not too pumped about that since I dont have access to my shop and lift anymore, I know plenty of people have done them on the ground but I'd rather not...

thunder550
09-23-2008, 03:46 PM
also on the way... they guy I had previously ordered my fuel pump from called and said they were out of stock, so I just ordered this one from Summit... little more expensive... but if it works, it works.


I keep trying to hide from myself the fact that theres a converter and cam swap looming on the horizon... not too pumped about that since I dont have access to my shop and lift anymore, I know plenty of people have done them on the ground but I'd rather not...

Trans work on the ground isn't TOO bad if you get the truck up as high as possible on jackstands and use a creeper and a good tranny jack.

silver-mod-o
09-23-2008, 03:50 PM
ive got a method of getting the truck plenty far off the ground thats pretty damn redneck but works like a charm, doesnt involve pumping a fokking jack for 20 min, and is fun to watch LOL

I put my reciever in my hidden hitch (ball facing down) hook a 8ft nylon choker (tow strap) to the hitch, then to the bucket on my front end loader, then i can pick it up on the front wheels just as high as the hydraulics will let me :jest: then I block the back up with wheels/tires I have stacked behind my shop... yes, its redneck, yes, its fun... bad thing is, it only works on the back. and my truck doesnt like ramps either...

thunder550
09-23-2008, 04:11 PM
LMFAO!!! :jest:

nonnieselman
09-23-2008, 04:22 PM
ive got a method of getting the truck plenty far off the ground thats pretty damn redneck but works like a charm, doesnt involve pumping a fokking jack for 20 min, and is fun to watch LOL

I put my reciever in my hidden hitch (ball facing down) hook a 8ft nylon choker (tow strap) to the hitch, then to the bucket on my front end loader, then i can pick it up on the front wheels just as high as the hydraulics will let me :jest: then I block the back up with wheels/tires I have stacked behind my shop... yes, its redneck, yes, its fun... bad thing is, it only works on the back. and my truck doesnt like ramps either...

That works... We used a forklift on my reciever hitch at my buddys shop to lift the back tires off the ground so we could put the Eaton in.. Worked great! just sit down and work at arm level..

charcold-bowtie
09-23-2008, 04:54 PM
lmao. Please take pictures. My IQ just dropped. Thats one thing I hate about my truck, I cant drive onto stands or trailers, when the trans goes out.

nonnieselman
09-23-2008, 05:26 PM
lmao. Please take pictures. My IQ just dropped. Thats one thing I hate about my truck, I cant drive onto stands or trailers, when the trans goes out.

Jack and Jack stands.. thats what ive done for the past 17 times.... :(

95 bright teal
09-23-2008, 05:43 PM
had to change a tire on my friend lifted 3500 cummins on 36"s and we didnt feel like using a jack so we pulled out the forklift, worked great!

silver-mod-o
09-25-2008, 09:34 AM
Well I solved my fuel pressure sending unit problem. It turned out quite nice if I do say so myself.

Also, fought and beat my head on this damn steering column pod for an hour yesterday thinking the stock cover had to come off... Broke a clip, tore my shifter boot... Only to figure out that the autometer pod just sits on top of the stocker and fastens with two sided tape... I'm a retard lmao. I'd much rather be working under the hood with big crap than doing little tedious stuff like guages...

Injector plugs also showed up yesterday. Thanks BC for the MSD P/N. Its going to make it easy.

BlackGMC
09-25-2008, 09:48 AM
I put my reciever in my hidden hitch (ball facing down) hook a 8ft nylon choker (tow strap) to the hitch, then to the bucket on my front end loader, then i can pick it up on the front wheels just as high as the hydraulics will let me :jest: then I block the back up with wheels/tires I have stacked behind my shop... yes, its redneck, yes, its fun... bad thing is, it only works on the back. and my truck doesnt like ramps either...

You gotta take pics of that!!!!


Speaking of pics where are the piping pics???

silver-mod-o
09-25-2008, 10:00 AM
Spoke to kyle yesterday and everything should be back on track after the shipping FUBAR... I told him not to get in a big rush. I still have plenty to on my end... He should be making more progress when he gets the materials. I'm shure he'll post up some pics.

charcold-bowtie
09-25-2008, 11:24 AM
I swear people underestimate those damn pillar gauges. I mean the wideband, sending units, vacuum hoses, this shit aint easy lol. Easy to waste a few hours on.

nonnieselman
09-25-2008, 11:35 AM
I swear people underestimate those damn pillar gauges. I mean the wideband, sending units, vacuum hoses, this shit aint easy lol. Easy to waste a few hours on.

It gets fun!!
I now have 4 gauges over head.. It took me forever to get all my wiring sorted out.. Then wire up the Wideband..

I could take all the wires out of the truck and it would prob loose 100# :judge:

silver-mod-o
09-25-2008, 12:31 PM
You need to upload those pics jonathan lol

silver-mod-o
09-27-2008, 05:16 PM
Just got the fresh Walbro 255 put in today... Didn't take very long to do and should take care of any deficiencies with the stock pump... Holds a little more consistant pressure too.

ZR1 DREAMING
09-28-2008, 10:32 PM
Any plans of running an inline too? I can't remember what you said on the phone? That 255 should be plenty for anything you push at that tired 5.3.

silver-mod-o
09-28-2008, 11:19 PM
After I see where I'm at after its all said and done I might want to put one inline or another in-tank, probably in-tank rather than in-line. That won't be until another motor finds its way in there though.

silver-mod-o
09-29-2008, 07:53 PM
The big brown truck pulled up again today and dropped off the vac/boost bypass valve that's necessary to install when running boost on a vacuum modualated transmission. I'm glad FLT told me about it... I'd have busted a trans if they hadn't. Seems like it would be one of those little overlooked parts.

Also, Kyle sent me some promising pics via txt message... :nod: hopefully he will post some here... I can't get them to upload from this "wonderful" blackberry :eyes:

silver-mod-o
10-03-2008, 02:00 PM
Well, so far everything has showed up with the exception of my WBO2 which should be here today and my triple pillar pod. My injectors got here yesterday so I just need to round up some spacers and bolts for that little swap. My pyrometer guage got here as well. As it sits, I have the pod for the guage I'm missing and I have the 3 guages for the pod I'm missing lol... That's about my luck.

As far as the coatings, I've been quoted no less than 150 to coat JUST THE LOG MANIFOLD.... So what I believe what I'm going to do is prep everything really well and use VHT's header coating... I've had good results with their stuff in the past so I figure ill try them out again. I also picked up some ceramic woven spark plug wire sleeves to go on the turbo side so they don't end up burnt.

By next weekend, I'd like to have my guages in and waiting on the kit as well as my log and stock manifold coated and ready, so it will be an uninstall-reinstall then tune deal and I can take my time on it a little more.

Kyle should be in today to post up some stuff from his end...

kbracing96
10-03-2008, 02:19 PM
Ok Ben here some pics like I promised. Hot side is all done and I'm working on the cold side. Also notice the newly renforced fange on the cross over and waste gate ;)

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y57/Kbracing96/Front%20Mount%20turbo/DSCF0039-1.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y57/Kbracing96/Front%20Mount%20turbo/DSCF0040-3.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y57/Kbracing96/Front%20Mount%20turbo/DSCF0041-2.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y57/Kbracing96/Front%20Mount%20turbo/DSCF0042-2.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y57/Kbracing96/Front%20Mount%20turbo/DSCF0043-2.jpg

silver-mod-o
10-03-2008, 02:23 PM
Woo hoo.... That looks purdy. I'm liking that I got the updated hot parts. Does the crossover brace to the downpipe or am I looking at that wrong?

kbracing96
10-03-2008, 02:30 PM
Woo hoo.... That looks purdy. I'm liking that I got the updated hot parts. Does the crossover brace to the downpipe or am I looking at that wrong?

That's where the waste gate goes. ;) That piece of square tubing is my mock-up 38mm waste gate ;)

silver-mod-o
10-03-2008, 02:31 PM
So the gate dumps into the downpipe instead of to the atmosphere?

Spoolin
10-03-2008, 02:38 PM
Beautiful looking kit kyle!! :judge:

kbracing96
10-03-2008, 02:39 PM
So the gate dumps into the downpipe instead of to the atmosphere?

Ya, that's the way most people like it. Dumping to atmosphere is really loud. You can easily make it dump to atmosphere if you want, all you have to do is turn the WG 180* on the crossover side and put a block off plate over the down pipe side.

kbracing96
10-03-2008, 02:40 PM
Beautiful looking kit kyle!! :judge:

Thanks! :) When do you want yours?? :D

2005 Silverado
10-03-2008, 09:45 PM
Thanks! :) When do you want yours?? :D

Kyle your almost worst then a used car salesman!

Also how are you going to do the cold side piping? Using your trucks piping as a template?

Dustin

silver-mod-o
10-03-2008, 11:10 PM
The LC-1 showed up in the mail today. Not looking forward to wiring that thing lol Still waiting on the guage pod... I'm excited to see pics of the cold side :)

EDIT: gonna send the G4 guage back and get the XD16 in return... just gotta fork over the difference. The G4 didnt come with wiring instructions and the XD is a one wire plug in and its done... I will be REALLY glad when all this wiring is done...

plus, im hard wiring my radar in when I do the guages also. add another wiring project to the list :eyes:

53RUSSELL
10-04-2008, 11:06 PM
Yeah, I had considered some 44# injectors just for me to get with the tuning and ease me into it on about 5psi... Then go to the 60s so I have room to grow.... But most are saying just to start out with 60s and be done with it. That's what ill most likely do, just looking for a decent deal on the injectors...

How much are those PLXs? Do they offer a white face gague that will match everything else?
Yes the plxs comes with a white face.
http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff48/russell1978/DSC02710.jpg

silver-mod-o
10-05-2008, 01:03 PM
Thanks for the pic Russell, the XD-16 guage has a one wire hookup and can be configured 16 different ways with different faces and bezels. You can even print custom guage overlays from the Innovate website....

BTW, the kit is supposed to ship tomorrow :) any cold side updates Kyle????

kbracing96
10-05-2008, 01:46 PM
BTW, the kit is supposed to ship tomorrow :) any cold side updates Kyle????

Things are looking good :)

charcold-bowtie
10-05-2008, 06:23 PM
i like the idea of a v band on the log. Those bolts are a major PITA.

kbracing96
10-05-2008, 10:19 PM
Ok, here's the update I promised with pics of the cold side :). It's pretty much done, a few little thing to finish up, clean all the pipes out and box everything up. Should make it out via Pony Express tomorrow, :lol:

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y57/Kbracing96/Front%20Mount%20turbo/DSCF0052.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y57/Kbracing96/Front%20Mount%20turbo/DSCF0053.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y57/Kbracing96/Front%20Mount%20turbo/DSCF0054.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y57/Kbracing96/Front%20Mount%20turbo/DSCF0055.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y57/Kbracing96/Front%20Mount%20turbo/DSCF0058.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y57/Kbracing96/Front%20Mount%20turbo/DSCF0057.jpg

BlackGMC
10-05-2008, 10:28 PM
That is amazing work man!!!!

7845
10-05-2008, 10:55 PM
I like the way the charge pipes are ran. as again Great work...now quit looking at your artwork Kyle and build another kit

thunder550
10-05-2008, 10:58 PM
I like your cold side jig Kyle :jest:

2005 Silverado
10-05-2008, 11:19 PM
Are oil lines included in your kit?

Dustin

silver-mod-o
10-05-2008, 11:26 PM
He's including everything except fuel system, guages, and tuning :)

Oh, and a little elf to come install all of it hahaha...

I am VERY excited. His craftsmanship is second to none IMO.... Everything is straight forward and looks to be routed VERY simply. E-fans make the cold side prettier hahaha... You should consider it Chris :jest:

thunder550
10-05-2008, 11:37 PM
I have considered it...been there, done that, went back to the clutch fan ;)

kbracing96
10-05-2008, 11:50 PM
He's including everything except fuel system, guages, and tuning :)

Oh, and a little elf to come install all of it hahaha...

I am VERY excited. His craftsmanship is second to none IMO.... Everything is straight forward and looks to be routed VERY simply. E-fans make the cold side prettier hahaha... You should consider it Chris :jest:

Humm... I need a vacation, but I'm not little or an elf, :jest:

Thanks for the complements guys! :)

silver-mod-o
10-05-2008, 11:51 PM
I hear ya... I wanted to the other day when I smoked another relay in my harness and almost got the truck hot lol... Sure does make it simple though.

silver-mod-o
10-05-2008, 11:56 PM
Coming from someone who makes their living working with pipe, that's great work... Both fitting/fabrication and welding. :)

Spoolin
10-06-2008, 03:19 AM
Nice kyle!! Ummm...what's in the cooler? :P

silver-mod-o
10-06-2008, 10:24 AM
Chris... Just a request. Could you change that frowny face on my thread title to something a little more optimistic?? Lol like the big green cheesy grinning face? :D I screwed that up when I fisrt started the thread and haven't asked to fix it... Hahaha.

thunder550
10-06-2008, 10:43 AM
Chris... Just a request. Could you change that frowny face on my thread title to something a little more optimistic?? Lol like the big green cheesy grinning face? :D I screwed that up when I fisrt started the thread and haven't asked to fix it... Hahaha.

I don't have mod privileges in this forum, but I'll make the request to someone who does :)

silver-mod-o
10-06-2008, 10:51 AM
Rodger, thanks...

thunder550
10-06-2008, 12:08 PM
Rodger, thanks...

Looks like trever1t got ya all fixed up :)

95 bright teal
10-06-2008, 05:54 PM
I always wondered why you were upset about getting a turbo

Stoichiometric
10-06-2008, 09:08 PM
Nice kyle!! Ummm...what's in the cooler? :P

Alcohol injection for the guy doing the welding:D

I always wondered why you were upset about getting a turbo

He's probably unhappy that it is going to be hard to drive the speed limit.

kbracing96
10-06-2008, 09:27 PM
Welp, it's on it's way.... :) :chug:

charcold-bowtie
10-06-2008, 11:51 PM
now u gotta wait for that POS in the brown van that takes his sweet as time.

As well as track it every hour lol.

silver-mod-o
10-07-2008, 12:41 AM
Hahaha, the status hasn't changed the 3 times I have checked it lol...

Stoich, it already is :( the troopers here know me by name just about lol...

nonnieselman
10-07-2008, 01:23 AM
what bout the injectors? solder or u get the adapters?

iamkeniff
10-07-2008, 05:59 AM
wow man, it's already completed?!?!?!?! i f'n love it. the builds looking good. when do you plan on installing it? is it pretty much just a simple bolt it kit?
i wanna turbo the 08 now :(

i read this thread everyday just to see updates lmao

silver-mod-o
10-07-2008, 09:28 AM
Jonathan, I've got the plugs to solder on, I'm just gonna pull the harness off and take my time with it. The plugs cost me 15 bucks and the adapters were way more... And I don't mind cutting. Its not a new truck....

Niff, the install is going Oct 18th. The hardest part will probably be getting rid of my headers and ORY to make room for this. Then it should fall into place.

charcold-bowtie
10-07-2008, 10:48 AM
Did u get the two bar map sensor yet. You can install it as well and tune it in if ya do. Then you can run 2 bar SD NA like i did lol.

silver-mod-o
10-07-2008, 12:50 PM
I got the MAP, waiting on the IAT sensor thatll be here thurs.... I haven't swapped it to 2 bar in HPT yet though, probably do that this week.

iamkeniff
10-08-2008, 05:38 AM
too bad i didn't have my spare truck to start building anymore, i'd buy your headers from you :) but i gotta wait to find the truck i'm looking for first.

i can't wait to see more pics, and the install done. :drool:

silver-mod-o
10-08-2008, 05:55 AM
Yeah, I don't think the headers will go on a 07+ truck, rfoster here in town wants them for his 99(I think) rcsb 5.3


I just tracked the packages, they're in Commerce City, C0.... Whatever they are doing there... They need to HURRY the hell up!!!!! Delivery scheduled for the tenth. :D

silver-mod-o
10-09-2008, 03:41 PM
There are four boxes in Houston on their way to me... Hmmmm I wonder what could be in them :angel:

thunder550
10-09-2008, 03:55 PM
There are four boxes in Houston on their way to me... Hmmmm I wonder what could be in them :angel:

Uh oh....Kyle shipped his personal possessions again. Looks like you'll have a new roommate soon!!

silver-mod-o
10-09-2008, 04:13 PM
That would be fine as long as his laptop and welder are in there :jest:

kbracing96
10-09-2008, 07:09 PM
Uh oh....Kyle shipped his personal possessions again. Looks like you'll have a new roommate soon!!

:angel:

iamkeniff
10-12-2008, 09:56 AM
Ben, nah they wouldn't be for the 08 :) they'd be for a 370 in a RCSB or something smaller:secret2: unless i did like you and turboed it then i wouldn't need the headers.

so you only have 6 days till you hope to start.....

silver-mod-o
10-13-2008, 10:25 AM
Well it looks like Kyle has released this thing into the wild! I hope more guys jump in and put his ass to work!!! LOL. I'm very pleased with everything so far!

iamkeniff
10-13-2008, 04:51 PM
i got with him, i'd like to turbo the new truck but the warranty is the biggest issue.
so i'm looking into getting some performance parts for the 08 :) i can't keep it stock lmao it's tooo damn hard.
i wish you lived like an hour away, i'd come help

silver-mod-o
10-13-2008, 05:26 PM
It aint that far.... Maybe an hour or a little less my side of the border... How ever that is from you.

You need to put some break in miles on that new purdy truck... ;)

iamkeniff
10-13-2008, 05:35 PM
It aint that far.... Maybe an hour or a little less my side of the border... How ever that is from you.

You need to put some break in miles on that new purdy truck... ;)

yeah it only has 324 on it right now lmao
i'm looking into finding a grille just like i had on my old truck.
beaumont, tx still right?
that's like 240 miles from me or a little farther im not sure.

when are you going to start posting pics of the truck being torn down and the turbo going in?!?!?!

silver-mod-o
10-13-2008, 11:15 PM
I got all my gagues in and hooked up tonight, just have to wire in the LC1 and start taking stuff apart :)

I'm debating on just starting on it tomorrow instead of this weekend. I need to get rolling on it. Its killing me to look at it in boxes hahaha

I'm about 35 miles north of Beaumont.

nonnieselman
10-13-2008, 11:20 PM
I wish i could make it this weekend for the fun man, but work sucks!!!
we just got to the hotel in Minnesota.... i hate this job!

iamkeniff
10-13-2008, 11:27 PM
35miles isn't bad! if i was you i'd open them all and start tearing EVERYTHING apart :)
you sold your Pacesetters yet? how old are they? wanna work something out?
sorry i shoulda pmed you lmao

silver-mod-o
10-15-2008, 06:58 PM
Well attempt number one didn't work out well today...

That cold front blew in and started raining on me just as I was pulling the hood off. Almost bent the frame on my truck too... Long story.

So I know the owner of 105 auto recycling in Vidor, and he's gonna come let me use his lift and basically have free run of his shop for however long I need it. He's got a car on it stripping it right now but early tomorrow he's gonna let me know when I can come get started.

So first thing in the am I'm gonna load both of my big toolboxes and put my bike on a trailer so I have a way home if the truck stays overnight, which I'm sure will happen, at least once :eyes: this is just my run of luck here lately.. If it rains and I've got to be on the bike, then so be it I suppose...

SimpleManLance
10-15-2008, 07:18 PM
Well attempt number one didn't work out well today...

That cold front blew in and started raining on me just as I was pulling the hood off. Almost bent the frame on my truck too... Long story.

So I know the owner of 105 auto recycling in Vidor, and he's gonna come let me use his lift and basically have free run of his shop for however long I need it. He's got a car on it stripping it right now but early tomorrow he's gonna let me know when I can come get started.

So first thing in the am I'm gonna load both of my big toolboxes and put my bike on a trailer so I have a way home if the truck stays overnight, which I'm sure will happen, at least once :eyes: this is just my run of luck here lately.. If it rains and I've got to be on the bike, then so be it I suppose...

atleast you got a place out of the rain to work on the truck. a couple days riding the bike in the rain should make you want to hurry up and get the truck done. good luck, looking forward seeing some pics.

Did u get the two bar map sensor yet. You can install it as well and tune it in if ya do. Then you can run 2 bar SD NA like i did lol.

im running OLSD NA right now.

silver-mod-o
10-16-2008, 10:16 AM
Yeah, it just seems my luck has been a perpetual kick in the sack here the past few weeks/months...

charcold-bowtie
10-16-2008, 10:47 AM
im running OLSD NA right now.

I was refering to the 2 bar part more than anything :lol:

iamkeniff
10-17-2008, 04:29 PM
whats the news on the truck man? you been able to get it to the shop and work on it yet?
PICS asap lmao

silver-mod-o
10-17-2008, 07:12 PM
Got about 75% in today...

Headers and ORY out, log and driver manifold in, X over in, DP in, turbo bolted up, oil feed all plumbed, cold side in, frame notched, intercooler mounted, chrage piping complete....

Tomorrow, all I have is the WG, BOV, injector swap, wiring, a couple vac/boost ref hoses, LC1 wiring, MAP/IAT install, oil return fitting.... And drop the new tune in and fire...

I'm gonna do an oil change and fresh TR6s and new wires, and fresh fuel filter while I'm at it... Those things just "should be" done when doing an install/conversion like this IMO...

It'll be two full days probably but I don't think that's bad considering the amount of work there is to be done and has already been done...

ZR1 DREAMING
10-17-2008, 10:41 PM
Yeah, it just seems my luck has been a perpetual kick in the sack here the past few weeks/months...

good thing you have small balls or that might be a real problem :jest:

charcold-bowtie
10-17-2008, 10:42 PM
Lmao. I saw a picture:secret2::devil::secret2:

sixltrbtr
10-17-2008, 10:43 PM
http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc218/retsof-photos/turbo.jpg

kbracing96
10-17-2008, 10:49 PM
Make sure you unplug and cap the TB where the vent line from the valve cover goes to it. :) Looking good. :)

Oh and that you have an actual check valve type pcv and not just the orifice type. ;)

silver-mod-o
10-18-2008, 11:24 PM
its in....

all I have to do tomorrow is finish wiring the wideband, put the hood on, throw throw the startup tune in it and see what happens LOL


Thanks again Robert for coming out and giving me a hand on the wiring... I'd still be there on those injectors. :jest: you made it look easy...

nonnieselman
10-18-2008, 11:27 PM
Uh OH!!!!

Lets hear bout it!

Shoot me a message after you get in boost and quit giggling like a lil girl...

silver-mod-o
10-18-2008, 11:59 PM
Will do lol.... Should sound nice with an open DP lol... I bet it still won't be louder than how it was with dual cutouts. N/a

nonnieselman
10-19-2008, 12:01 AM
Will do lol.... Should sound nice with an open DP lol... I bet it still won't be louder than how it was with dual cutouts. N/a


Na, the turbo is goin to kill some of the noise.. but make other noises :devil:

Spoolin
10-19-2008, 02:25 AM
WOW...now there is a fast install if I've ever seen one!! :judge:
Congrats and let us know how it feels. How much boost are you gonna start off with?

silver-mod-o
10-19-2008, 09:20 AM
Got the .5 bar spring in the WG... (~9psi) I'm about to get up and head over to the shop now and get crackin on getting it complete...

If I wouldn't have been hunting plug wires yesterday for 4 houre I would have driven it home last night. :judge: I tried 3 sets and they were all about 3in too short :confused: so I stuck my old wires back on for the time being... Ill order a new set this week.

I don't guess 2 days is a bad time for a start to finish install, even with some other regular maint in there...

Side note, if you think your fuel filter may need changing, change it... Robert pulled mine last night and could barely blow through it... Put a fresh one on and when we checked the fuel system for leaks we instantly got about 5psi more to the rail... Lol...

Someone call me and remind me to unplug the coils and prime the turbo before I crank it lol.


Ill post up and let everybody know how it goes... :devil:

2005 Silverado
10-19-2008, 04:38 PM
Make sure there are no rags hidden in the cold piping, Blow all the oil lines out, cross your fingers, and be safe driving it home haha

Dustin

nonnieselman
10-19-2008, 04:43 PM
he got it fired up... and blew off a coupling.. hahaha
couldnt figure out why it wouldnt make boost...

2005 Silverado
10-19-2008, 04:46 PM
he got it fired up... and blew off a coupling.. hahaha
couldnt figure out why it wouldnt make boost...

Hahahahaha. Sweet.

Dustin

silver-mod-o
10-19-2008, 11:34 PM
Yeah, the coupling was kinda under my radiator hose so it wasn't in plain view... I looked but didn't really see. Got it all buttoned up today. :)


First impressions are W-O-W!!!!!

Its SUPER rich still and the timing flatlines and is kept at 13deg. So the tune is safe... Still wanting to idle lean for some reason though... I'm going to recalibrate the WB and see if that helps. Its says ~20:1 but if you stand behind it your eyes instantly tear up so I know its not lean at all... But really rich... But as it comes into boost it reads between 9.0 to 10.0 .... Its blowing fuel out the exhaust according to my gf behind me in her truck hahaha...

Even with that tuning it comes into boost nicely and pulls as hard as about a 100 shot did before... I can only imagine how its gonne be once its tuned properly :devil:

Would that little timing and being that rich under boost make it seem like its missing??? It runs just as before in vac but as soon as the WB reading drops, it starts cutting out... I thought maybe it was blowing the spark out of the plugs???.... Any suggestions?

charcold-bowtie
10-20-2008, 12:26 AM
U using tr6 gapped around 30 thousanths.

I think being that rich is gonna be most of you problem, you need to get that wideband working correctly.

Also did u take care of the pcv system as needed....

Spoolin
10-20-2008, 02:10 AM
Don't hammer on it for a while until you get it all straightened out!! I know man, it's not worth it!!
Glad to see it's starting to make it all worth it!! Congrats!

silver-mod-o
10-20-2008, 07:17 AM
Yeah Colton, TR6s at .032" I'm gonna recalibrate it and see... The bung is almost identical to where yours is. So I don't think its a placement issue.

Spooly, I know, I'm not beating on intentionally... The couple times is has come into boost I didn't realize what had happened... It makes the transition flawlessly. :nod: and it hasn't gotten over 6psi... So I'm not out there beating the hell out of it already :jest: but I wanna...

Thanks for all the phone calls, txt messages, help, advice, support and kind words thru this build, it has really made it go easier thanks to many of you guys. ;)

With that being said, Kyle, Jonathan, Colton and Robert... Leave the tech support lines open :jest:

iamkeniff
10-20-2008, 10:34 AM
:) i wanna see finished pics!!!!


man man man, i want one now :(

congrates on the 3day finish build.

silver-mod-o
10-20-2008, 12:27 PM
Its going to the exhaust shop today to have the DP connected to the cutout and the rest of the exhaust.... I'm going to do some housecleaning under the hood and ill snap a few pics... It looks purdy :nod:

And sounds even purdier :devil: after its connected back to the rest of my exhaust it should be quieter than before.... :secret2: until the cutout is opened :judge:

iamkeniff
10-20-2008, 02:02 PM
:)
hell yeah!

silver-mod-o
10-21-2008, 11:33 AM
hmmm.... only seeing 6psi in any gear... the WG supposedly had a 9lb (.5 bar ~8.7) spring in it... I wonder what could be amiss... I dont have any boost leaks anywhere and... might have to build one of those nonnieselman special boost controllers :nod: then itll see whatever I tell it to :jest:

charcold-bowtie
10-21-2008, 01:54 PM
Ben 1 bar equals 14.7 psi. So you should see right over 7 lbs, then throw elevation in there.... Also the turbo would make up a small leak.

silver-mod-o
10-21-2008, 03:20 PM
Yeah, I got the same from my math... I was just going off what the box said.... Either way 6psi isn't right.

99Silverado5.3
10-21-2008, 08:54 PM
WOW...now there is a fast install if I've ever seen one!! :judge:
Congrats and let us know how it feels. How much boost are you gonna start off with?

+1 Way to have your :turd: together, very nice!!LOL. Congrats on the quick install..now get those bugs worked out! :judge:

nonnieselman
10-21-2008, 09:16 PM
If your around on November 23rd,, i wanna see the Boosted Goose over here in MS!!!

silver-mod-o
10-21-2008, 09:44 PM
Lol... It'll definitely be done completely by then... The problem Nov 23rd is that its the day after my bday and I've got plans... Plus ill still be on 12hr nights...

I'm liking the fact that its quieter than it was n/a with headers and ORY through the same exhaust. Now it definitely sounds just like any other truck on the street... Can't even hear the cam lope anymore.... I guess I'm going to tune it on 6psi for now, then bump up to 9....

nonnieselman
10-21-2008, 09:52 PM
Lol... It'll definitely be done completely by then... The problem Nov 23rd is that its the day after my bday and I've got plans... Plus ill still be on 12hr nights...

I'm liking the fact that its quieter than it was n/a with headers and ORY through the same exhaust. Now it definitely sounds just like any other truck on the street... Can't even hear the cam lope anymore.... I guess I'm going to tune it on 6psi for now, then bump up to 9....

Crap i forgot bout that... oh well.. next track day then.

kbracing96
10-21-2008, 11:25 PM
Yeah, I got the same from my math... I was just going off what the box said.... Either way 6psi isn't right.

The springs don't always give what they say, i've seen a Tial 60mm WG with 15psi springs that wouldn't open till over 25psi. He ended up with a 5 psi spring and it got 9psi with it. It will vary depending on the exhaust back pressure and where you referenced the wb from (best is from the intake manifold it's self). To me is better it be low then high, cuz you can always turn it up with a cheap manual boost controller. :)

silver-mod-o
10-22-2008, 01:19 PM
thats what I plan on doing... I'm going to get the tune nailed down as it sits for now though... then turn the fun knob up :jest:

silver-mod-o
11-10-2008, 08:20 PM
Did some tuning and made some dyno pulls today.... 457/470....

Just figured I'd update you guys... Thanks again

95 bright teal
11-10-2008, 08:25 PM
Nice numbers! how many pounds of boost?
Edit: saw the other post 6# very nice! when will we see track times?

silver-mod-o
11-10-2008, 08:31 PM
Don't know about getting it to the track, I'm working straight 12hr nights until I die I think... I'm hoping for some 11s still out of it....

Flaco
11-10-2008, 09:31 PM
Did some tuning and made some dyno pulls today.... 457/470....

Just figured I'd update you guys... Thanks again

^^^:thumb:

Blue5.3
11-10-2008, 09:41 PM
Did some tuning and made some dyno pulls today.... 457/470....

Just figured I'd update you guys... Thanks again


Good numbers Ben. Where did you dyno it?

silver-mod-o
11-10-2008, 09:46 PM
Strictly performance in Houston

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