Just wanted to post up a few pics of my build. Seems like there are a few of us building 370's on here so I'd thought I'd join the crowd and post up. Still have a few loose ends to tie up but it's coming together. It's getting there thanks to the help of a few people you might recognize from Grippy's build-up. Same master builder(Rex), same shop(WCCH), same mad scientist who put it together (Richard who stays behind the scenes) and similar pictures.

It's more of a sponsor build than anything:):
WCCH 245cc Edelbrock Heads
FLT 4L80E LVL-5
STS GT-76
ABEAR Motorsports VC's
StylinConcept's BP's

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Block before the SLUT get's his hands on it...
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The SLUT finally got his hands on it...Some people just don't know how to respect other people's property...WHACK it again REX!!
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Master Builder building masterfully
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Crank, piston, rings, and a few Rods.
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My Rods are on the far right. Left is stock(bent) Middle is Probe 4340 forged I-beams(Same as Grippy's). I'm gonna need a little extra beef for what I have planned.
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Lined up and ready for their new home.
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It's giving me blueballz just looking at it.:nutkick: Still have a few things to finish up.

Lookin good. :judge:

Cam?

looking good im anxious to see you get it in there

you using stock crank ?

and what final compression will you have

you runnin high boost or moderate boost + spray

glad to see you have Rex building your engine, he is Awesome! His knowledge and attention to detail is second to none!
I see he bought a new T-Shirt as well, LOL, good on ya Rex!

Did you go with the Ackerly & Childs Rings spec'd by Rex? Melling Oil Pump with the "bad ass" spring in there?

Looks purdy so far! Any man who builds engines while drinking Mt. Dew is a pro :judge: :chug:

glad to see you have Rex building your engine, he is Awesome! His knowledge and attention to detail is second to none!
I see he bought a new T-Shirt as well, LOL, good on ya Rex!

Did you go with the Ackerly & Childs Rings spec'd by Rex? Melling Oil Pump with the "bad ass" spring in there?
I had that shirt but thought that it was good to wear second time around! :judge: And yes it has all the good stuff.

I had that shirt but thought that it was good to wear second time around! :judge: And yes it has all the good stuff.

Good deal bro, I expect no less than the best from you! How's your Monster Truck motor coming along?
Unfortunately I'll be out to Sea again next week :bang: when it rains it pours :chug:

Lookin good. :judge:

Cam?
224/230 .050" of valve lift on each. I'll get all the specs out soon. Rex and I were going over it but I didn't grab the sheet he gave me.

224/230 .050" of valve lift on each

you sure thats not the duration:judge:

looking good im anxious to see you get it in there

you using stock crank ?

and what final compression will you have

you runnin high boost or moderate boost + spray
Richard (aka the Brains) and Rex said the stock crank will hold up fine so we stayed with it.
Final compression is 8.8:1
I'm gonna be running a high boost appplication. I'm shooting for 20lbs-22lbs. I have to play around with my A/R housing first to see what works best. I have a pretty small one in there now.

whoa! 20lbs.,:eek2: have you thought about the head lifting problem, you are studding your heads right

i was contemplating doing my own mild 370

Yup that was one of my bigger concerns and I figure the best head guy in the biz would know the best way to keep them down. There's no guarante but I think Richard glued those heads on there best he can. If that doesn't hold...I dunno we'll see!:)

id trust him:thumb:

I was contemplating doing my own mild 370
I figured why go mild when I can go wild? Rex overbuilt the engine to take as much abuse as I could throw at it.

Good deal bro, I expect no less than the best from you! How's your Monster Truck motor coming along?
Unfortunately I'll be out to Sea again next week :bang: when it rains it pours :chug: The monster truck motor was done just after I finished yours,It runs great and the owner/driver says it has sick Power! :judge:

The monster truck motor was done just after I finished yours,It runs great and the owner/driver says it has sick Power! :judge:

Sweet, will he be down at the San Diego Fair (Del Mar) again this year? It's the yellow Line-X truck right?

nice man . looks like i started a trend. i cant wait to have my 370 in my hands . i keep hitting roadblocks with getting it together but it shouldnt be long now.

Couple more pics...
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PROBE Turbo Pistons
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WCCH 245cc
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The Buissness end of things.
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nice man . looks like i started a trend. i cant wait to have my 370 in my hands . i keep hitting roadblocks with getting it together but it shouldnt be long now.
I'm pretty excited about your set up as well. Your thread and Grippy's were awesome to read and learn from. When they are all done it would be nice to compare dyno charts with all the FI 370's out there...Yours, Grippy's, dhpro should all be pretty similar! Not sure where mine's gonna fall just yet.

Sweet, will he be down at the San Diego Fair (Del Mar) again this year? It's the yellow Line-X truck right? Not sure! It was the line X truck,the team has A new sponsor Fabtech,The truck is now blue and yellow. search Obssesion Racing,there should be A schedule on his site.

Thanks Rex, I will be there this afternoon to pick it up! :devil:

Thanks Rex, I will be there this afternoon to pick it up! :devil:
You already got one from him in your shop!!! Greedy little bastard aren't ya!!!

Here you go brian, now you can go pick it up now. Would you be so kinda as to bring it to REBS for install?
It's all finished just waiting on the valve covers and tranny should be here this week from FLT.
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What TB is that?

90mm TB

Is there an adapter inbetween the TB and intake?

I believe it's a billet 90mm Throttle body conversion kit for the 2002-2005 Chevy and GMC trucks and SUV's made by WCCH. The kit replaces the factory installed 75mm throttle body with the later LS2 style 90mm throttle body set-up.

TB's on backwards! :) The plug is on the other side.


Looks a lot like my motor...

http://www.scifilogy.com/sss/intakebling/intake_frt.jpg

And yes, there is a WCCH adaptor plate between the TB and intake.

I know it is,But someone told me to put it on that way. Ill never hear the end of this! :hail:

????Huh???? I'm gonna stay out of this !!!! I don't even want to know!

I know it is,But someone told me to put it on that way. Ill never hear the end of this! :hail:

Amateurs............... :eyes:

You know WHO is the guilty one is! lol............. :judge:

Is the 90mm a better choice for a 370 than the edelbrock 4bbrl TB. Sorry to get off topic, but I am thinking about build a 370 for another project.

Is the 90mm a better choice for a 370 than the edelbrock 4bbrl TB. Sorry to get off topic, but I am thinking about build a 370 for another project.

This has been done with spectacular results. The Edlbrock 4bbl ttb has much better flow than the 90mm ttbs. Too bad it only will adapt to cable operated trucks mostly '99-'02 model years. You can call me if you want to learn more about this setup.

Richard :)

Found out a few more specs so here they are:

Pistons: Probe Turbo Pistons
Comp Cam : 236/230 115LSA
Rings: Hellfire
Rods: RPM Extreme Duty
90mmTTB Billet Adapter
90mm TB
MLS Head Gasket
ARP Studs and Bolts throughout
High Rev Roller lifters

That is all for now...Carry on :)

Thought I would post some pics up of the Valve Covers. They look awesome and Ryan from Abear is a pleasure to work with and worked with me even though at times I'm sure like I seemed like an obnoxious customer!! His work speaks for itself.:hail:
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Bling!..........I Love 'em

nice covers, however you are still a homo.

nice covers, however you are still a homo.
If only that were true I'm sure that would make your day. You've had your eye on me from day one...put some ice on your crotch and go back to watching 9 yr old boy porn in your office. I haven't said anything about what you were doing the last time I came by your shop...door closed, all phones on busy, and that guilty look when you finally came down with that sticky handshake.:suspiciou

nice covers, however you are still a homo.
LOOK WHO's TALKIN! :judge: :jest:

Rex...did you have any italian last night?? :hump: :jest::jest:

:jest:




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That is just awesome, very clean. :judge:

LOOK WHO's TALKIN! :judge: :jest:

You are the slut, so stfu!

If only that were true I'm sure that would make your day. You've had your eye on me from day one...put some ice on your crotch and go back to watching 9 yr old boy porn in your office. I haven't said anything about what you were doing the last time I came by your shop...door closed, all phones on busy, and that guilty look when you finally came down with that sticky handshake.:suspiciou


LMAO! :gay: :jest: :gay: :jest: :gay: :jest: :gay:

[QUOTE=Spoolin]Rex...did you have any italian last night?? :hump: :jest::jest:[/QUOTE NO: I Believe she was Argentinian :jest:

Sweet lookin setup! Custom bling always sets off a build...how long before it fires up? :devil:

NO: I Believe she was Argentinian :jest:
My ex was argentinian....careful they get addicting.

Sweet lookin setup! Custom bling always sets off a build...how long before it fires up? :devil:
That's a sore subject...It's been in the shop for 6 weeks now and it's had 8 hours of work on it. I've been out of state for most of that time and wasn't there to bug him about it. Apparently he can't install the tranny and rework my intake among other things because he's missing coil packs among a few other things...:eyes:
Richards keeping an eye on it but he's got his own buissness to run.
I'll throw out an update later. But it's a real PITA.

PITA is right! My guys are pretty good now thats its in their shop, but fortunately they're only 5mins away, so I stop by every fri or sat and send reg e-mails looking for pix and updates...they know I'm renting a car too, so if it drags on too long I'll start taking that cost out of their hides....R/

Well despite the hang-ups and aggrevation w/ the shop I'm working with, the guy is doing some absolutely great freaking work, which in the end is what matters. Engine and tranny are in, exhaust is all reworked and redone. No more silicone and band clamps for me! Their weld work is awesome, nice clean welds, ground them down to ensure proper welds with no leaks. They fabbed it up on the truck first before taking it off to get it heat coated. Last things to be finished up is the Fuel system and piping into the TB.
Here's a couple pics.
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Re-installed my spare flowmaster (yeah i know but I had it laying around) just to deaden some of the whistle while DD'ing.
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View of "the mess". Turbo charger + waste gate + electric cut-out + dump + charge pipes and exhaust. I realize the cut-out isn't gonna do much for performance but it'll make it a little louder and more importantly should help make the pressure difference across the turbine greater when it's opened.
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Back side of "the mess". Electic cut-out is Doug's. I'll also be drilling a small hole at the lowest part of the Hot side just before the turbo to drain and water.
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Hot side before it's all sent off to get a triple coat, I might wrap it after the coats. I've heard of plumbing rusting out with wraps so I hope with the three coats in between the steel and any water that will get trapped by the wrap I'll be safe...for a while. I'm just trying to retain as much heat as I can for a quicker spool.
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Cross over and Y.
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Long tubes and the underside of the FLT 80E-5. Sweet jesus I might get it all painted black!! What's wrong with me??
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Engine in and fuel rails in, just waiting for intake plumbing. Trying to find a way to make an elbow work. Right now it's hitting the top of the cowl/firewall...any suggestions? Going to re-work + weld the charge side in a few months after I break the engine in a bit, get rid of as many twists and turns as I can, similar to trtturbo's and Wilde Racing's among others.
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Yup, I'm one of those assholes...just another heavy ass thing to take off for track days. Should be fun on the street though. :)
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The lts are going to be bad for heat retention, there are TONS of threads on tech about doing away with lts and going to manifolds and how much better spool time was.

Yup! They are coated but I'm gonna wrap them up too! I know they also pull away from low end but hopefully with the TQ and the small A/R and a couple other things I'm doing it'll help in the low end. I'm hell-bent on keeping the heat from disapating so if you have any suggestions let me know. I still have the stock 5.3L manifolds that I could use if I need to I guess. They'll fit on a 6L??

I belive that your 5.3L exhaust manifolds will work fine on the 6.0L heads. Thats a real project you took on! I felt like mine was big enuff. Good luck with the rest of the build!!

...Thats a real project you took on!
List has been reduced by 80% due to time constraints. Next up after this is Brakes and suspension.:(

Looks good Jules! Nice progress pics. All the truck exhaust manifolds are the same. There are shops out there that machine (port) the exhaust manifolds to match or exceed the port opening on the head, if you are thinking about trying stockers out. Are you still planning on using a dana 60?

Looks good Jules! Nice progress pics. All the truck exhaust manifolds are the same. There are shops out there that machine (port) the exhaust manifolds to match or exceed the port opening on the head, if you are thinking about trying stockers out. Are you still planning on using a dana 60?
Thanks Henry!
I'll give these a shot and if I don't like them I'll port out the stockers like you mentioned and give that a go.
The rear-end is part of the 80% that has been cut-down because I was running over the alloted "jackstand time" allowed!
I'm still undecided though, you think I should do the dana-60?
I plan on being up there at the end of the month for the gtg. I'll stop by like I promised and if you feel like switching one out with me we can try! :)

btw, I have a present for you when I get up there...(hint)it's purpose is to marry the engine and tranny together... :)

Dana 60's are one strong rear end, that is what came stock in my truck

looking good man.

Sounds good, I can't wait to see the truck in person! I am not sure which axle I would use, the 60 has a big ring gear, but I think the 9" has an extra pinion support. As long as you could find a 6-5.5" bolt pattern you need for your wheels, I am sure the 60 would do just fine (cheaper too).

Thanks for saving your stock flexplate for me, J/K. It's a tripple disk right?

Dude that looks BADASS!! I happy u got some progress finally...I know how frustrating it is :bang: There's a good chance I'll be picking mine up 2nite :eek2: Beauty is its a solid 45 miles home from the tuner, so I'll get a great 1st spin. Lemme know how urs runs...gotta try and be patient before going for the final #'s. Prob won't do the max rwhp runs before stage 2 tuning after 1000-1500 miles. Good Luck - I'm jealous...maybe I shud start my 502 now! :devil: R/

Dude that looks BADASS!! I happy u got some progress finally...I know how frustrating it is :bang: There's a good chance I'll be picking mine up 2nite :eek2: Beauty is its a solid 45 miles home from the tuner, so I'll get a great 1st spin. Lemme know how urs runs...gotta try and be patient before going for the final #'s. Prob won't do the max rwhp runs before stage 2 tuning after 1000-1500 miles. Good Luck - I'm jealous...maybe I shud start my 502 now! :devil: R/
Lol, I know I was thinking about doing an LSX build but I need to slow down and do one thing at a time! Can't wait to hear your feedback on the truck! I'm getting antsy because I can see the light at the end of the tunnel. It's gonna be hard to follow the breakin routine I'd imagine...good luck!

It's gonna be hard to follow the break in routine I'd imagine...

Follow the what?

Exactly my point :judge:
(not beating on it for the first 1000-1500miles to let the rings settle, and all the other driving faux-pas on new engines that haven't been broken in properly)

fire it up and beat the shit out of it.....That is Rex's break in .

fire it up and beat the shit out of it.....That is Rex's break in . NOT!!! Brian;I did not say that, What I said was get it runnin,tune it,MAKE sure everything is in working order, boost it easy here and there,watch the temps and oil pressure,Make sure it accelerates with no surge or dips then after you put anywhere from 50 to 300 miles on it,change oil and filter,once again make sure all is stable THEN YOU can start beating on it. A little at A time big BOY. Rex....LOL :judge: I need A Mt. Dew! :chug:

NOT!!! Brian;I did not say that, What I said was get it runnin,tune it,MAKE sure everything is in working order, boost it easy here and there,watch the temps and oil pressure,Make sure it accelerates with no surge or dips then after you put anywhere from 50 to 300 miles on it,change oil and filter,once again make sure all is stable THEN YOU can start beating on it. A little at A time big BOY. Rex....LOL :judge: I need A Mt. Dew! :chug:


I did that......LOL

Settle down Rex, do you have something else in your Dew?

I did that......LOL

Settle down Rex, do you have something else in your Dew?
:offtopic: You Know me better than that..........LOL :jest:

Lol, I know I was thinking about doing an LSX build but I need to slow down and do one thing at a time! Can't wait to hear your feedback on the truck! I'm getting antsy because I can see the light at the end of the tunnel. It's gonna be hard to follow the breakin routine I'd imagine...good luck!
Check my thread...first drive impressions...it just goes and goes and theer's lots still on the table!

Update:
Just ordered DrX's harness adapter, Grant(DrX) is a good guy to deal with. Should be here on Monday. Tomorrow I'm dropping of my laptop and HPT so we can pull the stock tune and get it re-calibrated then towing it to JPA so he can get preliminary tune in.

Ps Brian I'll call you tomorrow like planed but wanted to know if you had any willwood's in stock. :poke: Talk to you manana.

Update:
Just ordered DrX's harness adapter, Grant(DrX) is a good guy to deal with. Should be here on Monday. Tomorrow I'm dropping of my laptop and HPT so we can pull the stock tune and get it re-calibrated then towing it to JPA so he can get preliminary tune in.

Ps Brian I'll call you tomorrow like planed but wanted to know if you had any willwood's in stock. :poke: Talk to you manana.

What? No parachute? Your setting your sights a bit low.......... :jest: :jest:
Just don't attach the chute to the tailgate. :eek2:


Richard :)

Update:
Just ordered DrX's harness adapter, Grant(DrX) is a good guy to deal with. Should be here on Monday. Tomorrow I'm dropping of my laptop and HPT so we can pull the stock tune and get it re-calibrated then towing it to JPA so he can get preliminary tune in.

Ps Brian I'll call you tomorrow like planed but wanted to know if you had any willwood's in stock. :poke: Talk to you manana.
I just installed it on mine. Works good!

how's your tuning coming along?

Wheatley is gonna send me a stock 6L - 80E for a base tune that I will just drop in and work from there. According to him it will be a lot easier to do that then to recalibrate everything else to match. Brian is gonna help me drop the tune in and then I'll find a good tuner in the area. I had someone lined up but he's now out of the picture. Just waiting on DrX's harness and that should be here on monday.
I was pretty excited to hear it run on friday, I think richard thought I was going a little nuts I'm sure.
Unfortunetly the battery was dead and it didn't have enough juice to turn it over, gonna have to wait till monday I guess.

did you ever find a good tuner?

[QUOTE=Spoolin]Wheatley is gonna send me a stock 6L - 80E for a base tune that I will just drop in and work from there. According to him it will be a lot easier to do that then to recalibrate everything else to match.

Thats exactly what I did...mine is a 2 bar and running quite well now. Note that the 80E shift points are something I'm still playing around with. R/

did you ever find a good tuner?
Kinda...I called up the guy that tuned my truck when I had the 5.3 in it. He said he would do it but he's on vacation until July 12th so I'm gonna wait until then. Kinda works out good cuz I'm flying out to Florida for a few weeks on monday anyways. I was fiddling with the idea of taking it up to S.F. and have Rick @ Synergy do it because everyone talks highly of his tuning abilities.

[QUOTE=Spoolin]Wheatley is gonna send me a stock 6L - 80E for a base tune that I will just drop in and work from there. According to him it will be a lot easier to do that then to recalibrate everything else to match.

Thats exactly what I did...mine is a 2 bar and running quite well now. Note that the 80E shift points are something I'm still playing around with. R/

Good to know. I was wondering exactly how you did yours too! Wheatly never did send me a tune but I was able to find one off HPtuners and just used that one. I took off to go to a wedding in maine this weekend but richard@WCCH came in on Saturday and spent all day getting my tune to work right and fixing any problems that needed some attention. (Left bank wasn't firing :bang: ). Can't really say enough about his commitment to his customers! He solved all the problems and now it's running with a base tune in it. Good enough until I can get it tuned professionally.

I'm picking it up tomorrow morning. It needed a new front pulley (other one wobbly and bent) and a couple tranny wires plugged into the computer and a O2 sensor + misc stuff.
I take a few vids and post them up manana. I can't believe how loud it is :eek2:. Even with the cut-out closed holy fuck it's loud.

I bot HP Tuners and plan to teach myself, that way I can do my thing whenever I have time. I still have P0315 Crank relearn...left it at Chev dealer last week for the day and they did nothing claiming that I had too many codes and they cudn't read the MAP sensor...fuckin zeros :turd: ...anyways I'll eventually get it dealt with...IAT's are way high at 190*, so need to flush the rad juice as its starting to gum a bit and get the meth tuned. Belt chirps just before shifts, and I think its slippin a bit, so need to get a progressive rate tensioner I suspect. Also putting race type fuel return in and that shud clean up my AFR and smooth the flow...beat goes on...at least its driving well, but down on power on hot days. R/ :drive:

VROOM VROOM :devil: :devil:
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Sounds good, is that with the exhaust cut out closed? What are your cam specs?

Oh My! :drool:

Sounds killer. :judge:

So you picked it up today? Did it make it to JPA's?

Richard :)

Sounds good, is that with the exhaust cut out closed? What are your cam specs?
It was with them open and closed. And you were right richard, even closed it's loud as hell. I have an extra flowmaster sitting in my garage that I might use because even with them closed it's too loud. I'm gonna be the only person running two flowmaster mufflers in series. My A/F guage isn't hooked up yet but it's running really rich right now, I can smell it in the exhaust. Will get that straightened out soon enough.

So you picked it up today? Did it make it to JPA's?

Richard :)
Not yet...it's looks too good sitting in the driveway to take it anywhere else right now. It's feeling a little home sick anyways. Talked to Brian and when we figure out where to find a suitable rear end for it then I'll bring it over to him for brakes, rear-end and a few loose ends. Hopefully Brian or I will find something by friday.

VROOM VROOM :devil: :devil:
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Dude...that sounds awesome!!! Don't quiet that down! Ur cam sounds really nice...mine's more tame...not as lumpy as I built for h-way...DON"T CHANGE A THING! :judge:

Sounds awesome man, glad it's almost done. And thanks for all the good stuff you keep saying about us, it was a pleasure to contribute to such a cool project :cheers:

That sounds mean man. I like it, glad to see you got it fired up.

Thanks for all the compliments. Right now it's at Brain @ JPA getting some brakes and some loose ends tied up and tonight I'm gonna shop for a rear end so that I don't end up regretting putting it off.
Although I love how loud it is with the cut-outs open and all I think I have to add a second muffler for street driving because I know the cops are gonna pull me over in a heart beat due to it's noise with the cut-outs CLOSED!! And if they even look at my set-up I'll be up shit creek. So just to stay clear of the law I'm gonna add a second muffler and in any case with the cut-out's open it sounds like a nasty Boat.
A couple of my friends hate me now cuz they are jealous! :jest:

Sounds awesome man, glad it's almost done. And thanks for all the good stuff you keep saying about us, it was a pleasure to contribute to such a cool project :cheers:
My pleasure Ryan! It was great to work with you and I can't speak enough about my satisfaction! Now everyone is asking me what Abear/Wcch means!!
Lol

I wanna hear you honk the train horns. :jest: Sounds good man! Let us know what rear you end up going with and where to find one. :)

Talked to Brian today...turns out she was running sooo Rich that there's fuel in the oil. :( Not good.
Good thing I only drove it like 4 miles and like a grandma from one shop to another.
Turns out brian also has a lot more work to do than previously thought. Ahhhh the joys of giving your truck to a perfectionist!! :)

I wanna hear you honk the train horns. :jest: Sounds good man! Let us know what rear you end up going with and where to find one. :)
Will get a video of the horns when I get home in a few weeks. The other night I noticed a bunch of cat prints all over my hood. :bang: So what I'm thinking is I'm gonna hide out in my truck at night and when the cats jump on the truck...CHOOOOO CHOOOOO!!!!! :)
Hope there aren't any bunny huggers here, Maybe I'll be able to get a vid of that. LOL

What are the specs on your cam?

224/230 ???/??? ???

What are the specs on your cam?
236º/232º with a 114º
sorry for the delay, had to check and make sure before I gave you wrong numbers.

236º/232º with a 114º
sorry for the delay, had to check and make sure before I gave you wrong numbers.
and 6 inches of vacuum at idle.... :bang:

and 6 inches of vacuum at idle.... :bang:


SHould have got a dyson. Commercial advertises the most vaccum out of a bagless vaccum.

Are you planning on pushing 22psi on a 370 with the 76mm turbo in your sig? What kind of head gaskets did you guys go with? What stud size? Did you o-ring it or anything?

Are you planning on pushing 22psi on a 370 with the 76mm turbo in your sig? What kind of head gaskets did you guys go with? What stud size? Did you o-ring it or anything?
Yeah, that is what I'm hoping for, however what the 76mm is gonna give is still uncertain. I'll have my wg set to 20-22psi but wether or not the turbo can provide that is another question. I know parish was seeing 18 lbs with the 76mm on his 5.3 but his set up was a little more restrictive with the stock heads and what was it a Z06 cam?? Richard helped me make the engine as free flowing as possible. With a smaller set of heads or a smaller cam it would be alot easier to get to 20-22 psi but I'm hoping for the most cfm as possible. If I can get to 16-18psi I think I'll be happy with that. That is also why the cam is so big if that's what you were wondering. I use my truck's hp more at the higher RPM's than the low ones as I'm not usually street racing from a dig. Not sure on the gasket or stud size but richard was aware of what kinda pressure it's gonna be seeing. Hopefully he'll chime in with better detail. That being said, blowing a gasket is a possiblity but I'll cross that bridge when I get there.

Anything I miss Richard?? :)

Anything I miss Richard?? :)

We chose the Fel Pro MLS gaskets because they've proven to be a pretty tough gakset in similar applications and I've seen them hold over 20lbs of boost with stock dia. studs. The Edlebrock heads are especially tough around the deck area and will give maximum support for head gasket sealing. Reaching 18-20lbs of boost is going to require (besides an effecient turbo) a very good tune. Without a doubt Spoolin's truck is going to be setting a standard for CC performance. He's invested well in the proper places and is really close to seeing his goal met.

Nice truck Spoolin. I wish it were mine. :D

Richard :)

Silverbrick,call me buddy

whos doin the tuning? What baseline tune will u start from? I'm learning way too much about tuning than I'd like as I'm finding its more than just AFR and other "BIG PICTURE" aspects :confused: ...make sure u work with someone who has access to both HPT and EFI, and who understands EXACTLY how to tune a 2Bar...a good book to get is by Greg Banish called Engine Management - Advanced Tuning. Its very informative and he even gives classes all over the country. R/

Richard was kind enough to come in on Saturday and help me flash a base 6L / 4L80E tune in my truck. (I'd love to see anyone else do that on their own "off" time).
Other than that there is a local tuner who's really good apparently and he actually tuned my truck previously and did a great job. He's really active on HPtuners forum so at least he's definetly in the "know" so to speak or has a good source of info. Haven't heard one bad thing about his work yet so...we'll see!!
I was trying to convince parish to come out here and tune my truck... :poke: All in all it probably would of been cheaper too if you think about it!! Lol.

Got my truck back from the tuners...need your guy's help.
Please see post below.

http://www.performancetrucks.net/forums/showthread.php?t=397191

dude, don't putz around with something thats not basic IMO. Get rid of it and get a new one u know will work...Vig...etc. U and I both know that trying to make a questionable part work, isn't worth the extra 5hp, hair loss and shorter lifespan! :bang:

WoW looks great (soon to be a four door beast).... :hail: :hail: :hail:

it looks like a tune problem as well as a poorly selected and possibly busted converter. but be careful cause if your converter is slippin that bad it can superheat the fluid and burn up your tranny :boom:

save some money for a new trany you may need it.

Sooooo....Update, kinda.
Been putting some miles on it, trying my hardest to keep out of boost :devil:
Drove down to San Diego on monday morning which is about 170 miles from my house. Except for one small instance where I accidentally go into too much boost (will not say how high :hail:because I know Rex and richard might read this and get mad at me), the trip down went well. After class I went back out and started my truck up and heard a real loud clicking noise. After some checking, it looks like it was coming from the Valvetrain, also found out that I lost ALL the oil out of my engine...:headbang: :(
There's been a small leak since the swap but had asked the tuning shop to take care of it but I guess they didn't. Still had oil pressure so I must of had some kinda bottom left in the pan thank god!
Found a bit of oil under the truck as well(and tonight when I got home noticed a lot of oil spots where I park my truck...slow leak), also for a fe minutes after start up truck was spitting out water (condensation) out of the exhaust. Had to check but it was water. I thought it was an awful lot though.
Took a vid in case any of you want to take a stab at what the clicking sound was. Went to a boat supply store which was just around the corner and filled my truck up with some 40W and clicking subsided somewhat. Richard told me it was probably the tappets (sp) seeing that I was so low on oil.
Thanks to MoreGrip who I called since I was in his area and needed advice, I have an idea of what or where my leak may be coming from, drove it back today...staying out of boost the whole way and made it back fine. Gonna go get the leak looked at today as well as my busted A/C and other minor things.
Here's the vid...any other opinions as to what it might be?

http://thumbs.vidiac.com/67dd342d-e28b-49aa-ba0f-997d00262095.jpg (http://videos.streetfire.net/video/67dd342d-e28b-49aa-ba0f-997d00262095.htm)[url=http://videos.streetfire.net/video/67dd342d-e28b-49aa-ba0f-997d00262095.htm]Clicking sound coming from Valve train...tapets maybe?

bud i heard that sound before...that sound never lasted long and motor eventually shuts itself off

also thats a shit load of moisture, i seen that much before when my head gasket in my mustang went bad

I thought it might of been that too but coolant level seems ok right now. Although when my boost spiked heading down to SD it definetly coulda blown a head gasket but...:confused:.
In my old set-up I had drilled a small hole in the last hot pipe before the turbo and drained maybe 2 cups of water from my hot side. I'm gonna drill a hole in this one and take a vid just so people know how much condensation builds up with these STS kits.

water woudlnt worry me that much. its that noise. that noise will cause you issues soon but i sure hope it wont. tear downs are not fun

I'm with Quick. The tapping does not sound healthy bro.

I agree, the water wouldn't concern me as much as the tapping. All vehicles get condensation after initial start up in the morning. You better pull the valve covers to see what's up!

Bummer! I feel for ya....having my own probs too. Mine's been away for 5wks :eek2: mostly due to a sloppy builder and my not being willing to drive it til its running like the tune is from GM. Thats a lot of oil to lose and cuda done more damage than u think - its a new mill after all! I'd definately have those covers pulled and maybe even the heads to check the cyl wall wear if u find anything in the valve train. As for the water, I'd heard about the condensation from STS units...One thing I always do is drill a small pin hole in the bottom of my mufflers just under the exit tube to drain any water that collects. I always viewed mufflers as designed to fail after a certain time due to exactly that prob. R/

dam man that sucks , keep us updated on what the valve train looks like when you pull the covers.

get those valve covers off!

I just checked out his motor and the noise has gone away.I would say he was very low on oil.When he brought it to WCCH this afternoon,The lifter had pumped up and the noise has disappeared.Oil Pressure is 70LBS. His oil leak is A hairline crack in the side of the oil pan. HMMMMM wonder how that happened????? We even went to lunch. Julian, PUT some gear in that thing. Rex.........

so.....Spoolin's truck is SPOOGIN oil out of a crack in the pan?

so.....Spoolin's truck is SPOOGIN oil out of a crack in the pan?
Yeah, They got A new pan comming

cool! glad it is something simple!

Yeah, They got A new pan comming
so no more Spoogin!

so no more Spoogin!
It only (Spoogs) A little when he parks it,But when he drives it,the thing really Spoogs. LOL :chug:

so.....Spoolin's truck is SPOOGIN oil out of a crack in the pan?

There's a good coating over everything!! Good thing is that I will never have to worry about rust as I have oil from the back of the engine all the way back to where my rear end is about 6 quarts worth. I took a pic of the crack...looks like it nicked a crossmember when the engine was being put in.
Will upload in a little bit.

Ya, it sounded like a lifter ticking to me, a rod is a lot more hollow sounding. So... Who dropped the motor......... :devil:

Ya, it sounded like a lifter ticking to me, a rod is a lot more hollow sounding. So... Who dropped the motor......... :devil:
I don't care who dropped the motor or even how it happened, The main thing is that there is no apparent internal damage and is A simple repair.

Here's a pic of where on the oil pan the crack is. You can tell it was scraped pretty good on something. It's in a place too hard to reach for running over something and easily identifiable if it was there before rex put it on so I'm thinking it was done during install.
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Here's a close up of the crack.
http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i189/Flovian/My%20truck/CIMG1737.jpg

http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i189/Flovian/My%20truck/CIMG1738.jpg

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i thought my oil pan made it on my last engine but also had a small crack similer to your but on the blower return line, luckily i caught it before i installed the motor , shoul dbe an easy swap for you since your 2wd.

Can you say SCRAAAAAAAPE. Ouch!

Here's another potential problem.
Noticed when I was under the truck that the drive shaft is rubbing against a crossmember.
Here's what I mean...
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http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i189/Flovian/My%20truck/CIMG1735.jpg

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Kinda blurry but you can seat some wear rings on the shaft and some scuff marks n the crossmember. I know the drive shaft can shift up when put under load or whatever but these pictures were taken with my rear suspension fully compressed. So there wasn't much more play in the suspension. These pics are from the rear of the drive shaft right before the rear end yoke.

http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i189/Flovian/CIMG1735.jpg

This need to be addressed as soon asap

I have to get the rear-end figured out before I can tackle the drive shaft. Brian says wilwood is testing a mounting bracket right now. It's taking forever though! :(

I have to get the rear-end figured out before I can tackle the drive shaft. Brian says wilwood is testing a mounting bracket right now. It's taking forever though! :(
But we want it now! LOL :judge:

That rubbing looks pretty damn scarry :eek2: I hope you get it nailed before you do :( Keep us posted.

you didnt hear any weird noise with the d shaft hitting the frame like that?

Your shaft probably hits under accel when your axle twists from torque. The pinion will twist up another inch or two.

your driveshaft is probably junk now. with aluminum shafts they arent that strong from factory and to get a nick or deep scratches could cause them to come apart or have serve vibrations

Thanks for sharing the pics. I'm relived to see the oil leaked out instead of burned out. I've got a replacement pan on the way.

The driveshaft looks grim. You definitely need to add hoops and an uprated shaft. For now take it easy.......... no wheelies :jest:

I've gotta say your engine sounds really tough! :judge: Very throttle responsive with that Vic Jr.

The rear gear change will make a very nice difference and then the serious tuning can begin. :devil:

Richard :)

you didnt hear any weird noise with the d shaft hitting the frame like that?

I do actually. But I didn't know what it was at first which is why I was looking back there. Feels like when your driving on the 405 and you get into a bad rythm with the concrete slabs.

Your shaft probably hits under accel when your axle twists from torque. The pinion will twist up another inch or two.

Yeah that's what I figured too. I only feel it when I'm on the gas and when I'm coasting I'm back to a smooth ride. I guess the 4L80E's output shaft is a little off from where the 60E's lined up and now the shaft is screwed up. Looks like I'm gonna have to figure this out before too long and not keep putting it off. Thinking a two piece steel drive shaft is in order?

Thanks for sharing the pics. I'm relived to see the oil leaked out instead of burned out. I've got a replacement pan on the way.

The driveshaft looks grim. You definitely need to add hoops and an uprated shaft. For now take it easy.......... no wheelies :jest:

I've gotta say your engine sounds really tough! :judge: Very throttle responsive with that Vic Jr.

The rear gear change will make a very nice difference and then the serious tuning can begin. :devil:

Richard :)

Thank you Richard! You had that thing ordered 15 minutes after we found out we had a crack...You spying on what were doing across the street? :jest:
Don't worry about any wheelies...as a matter of fact you'll be happy to know that at the car show on sunday as you saw me leave, there was a perfect opportunity to do a burnout in front of the camera crew that was there. They had their camera pointed at my truck giving me the thumbs up and I pulled out like a grandma...they even cut me out of vid when they posted it on the net. :(
They did get chase and Dave burning out though. :smokin2:
Axle and gears are waiting on what wilwood will say about the brakes...I'm getting tired of waiting on them though, it's been three weeks already. And if I break a drive shaft I'll be pissed!! :mad:

Axle and gears are waiting on what wilwood will say about the brakes...I'm getting tired of waiting on them though, it's been three weeks already. And if I break a drive shaft I'll be pissed!! :mad:

settle down tuff guy, the impatience is what got you into the position you are in now.

They did get chase and Dave burning out though. :smokin2:
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what vid is this?

http://www.performancetrucks.net/forums/showthread.php?t=392727

Post #60

...the impatience is what got you into the position you are in now.
Impatient?? I don't know how having an engine swap take three months makes me impatient??

dam i missed that, i cant even tell if im spinning with how loud the exhaust is. cool find.

I do actually. But I didn't know what it was at first which is why I was looking back there. Feels like when your driving on the 405 and you get into a bad rythm with the concrete slabs.


That must be one bouncy ride :drive: You should either look into have a new driveshaft made or get yours retubed. Hope everything get's fixed :)

I've been shopping around to get a new drive shaft. Looks like 2 piece steel is the way I'm gonna be going.

Any updates spoolin'? how is the motor running? get it to dyno or track tiems?

Got a Driveshaft yet???

Got a Driveshaft yet???
In the process of ironing out some of the other shops BS (broken oil pan) and working toward getting it running good. I think gears and a EATON posi are next, then we will work on the DS. I do not think his DS was hitting under accel.

How the heck do you break an oil pan lol

How the heck do you break an oil pan lol


when a rod breaks and goes bouncing off your block and into the pan.

How the heck do you break an oil pan lol
I think it was broken when the motor was installed (not by us :) )

I think it was broken when the motor was installed (not by us :) )

Yeah and the kicker is when I picked up my truck yesterday they tried to charge me for the new oil pan, apparently it's a new policy when they break something during install it's now up to me to replace it and pay labor! :suspiciou :twak:
Worked itself out ok in the end...can't thank that WCCH guy enough (he took care of the problem)...if I was a slutty whore I'd ask him to have my baby! :kiss:

Wait, :thinker: I am a slutty whore.....nahhhh Sorry Richard but your not my type!

Any updates spoolin'? how is the motor running? get it to dyno or track tiems?

Yup, like brian said, got it back yesterday from another shop :eyes: where they managed to fix 1 of 4 problems! (A/C compressor won't kick it...ever(tune or wiring problem), meth injection still isn't working, and a small exhaust leak).
But other than that it's running good so far, been keeping it out of boost, looking into getting either a 2-bar or 3-bar so that I can boost it up to 20 lbs. I'm running out of MAF at about 4 psi right now. I still have plenty of passing power at 0psi which is pretty cool. 6.0L rock...:rock:

To do list looks like this
- Gears and rear-end.
- Fabricator a new crossmember to mount a carrier bearing for a 2piece DS
- Replace MAF with something better.
- And boost the hell out of it until she breaks.

Sounds good, things are comming toegether. Throw the MAF away and buy a 3bar!

LOL, I walked in on Richard yesterday when you were on the phone with him, I didn't know it was you or I woulda said Hi! Richards having too much fun at his old age I tell you...I mean young age...Woops!! :)

I'm getting soooo tired of this stupid truck:mad:...
I'm gonna part out my engine, turbo and tranny soon if this :turd: keeps up. But more on that later.

First the good news:
Got the 4.10's and the eaton in today. I think the truck feels much better. It's hard to compare with the previous gears, reason being I never went WOT or even 1/2 throttle since the engine swap. I always kept things out of boost and at 1/4 throttle waiting to get all the bugs worked out and properly tuned. So I never really got a feel for the old 3.23's since I always babied it and the converter was always unlocked. Driving it home today it did feel alot snappier at 1/4 throttle but how much I really can't tell. But it feels alot funner so that's good!

So the bad/pisses me off news:
I was changing my gear set-up with HPtuners and asked my tuner to stop by and he helped me look things over and we ran into a couple things in the engine codes. So far this is what's been found to be wrong by shop that did swap...no clue on what hasn't been found yet.

1. Alternator is not wired up properly (engine codes)
2. Meth injection is not wired up properly (not working)
3. A/C compressor is not wired up properly (not working)
4. A/C system got pinched and has leaks now and can't hold a charge. (not working)
5. MAF sensor was wired up incorrectly, also found the red wire (12volt??) was loose and MAF kicked in and out at certain times. YEAH I FELT IT. (engine codes)
6. Evap leak code detected...fuel system wasn't set up properly and certain parts re-installed improperly. It's causing a BAD BAD smell of fuel/fumes, and a couple of my friend have had headaches. (engine codes)
7. exhaust leaks found
8. TRANNY NOT WIRED UP PROPERLY :eek2:(taken care of at JPA)
8. Wide Band not wired up at all (taken care of)
9. Cracked oil pan (taken care of)
10. COIL PACKS WIRED UP INCORRECTLY :bang: (taken care of)
11. Train horns were not wired up properly or mounted well. (taken care of at Relaxed Customs)
12. Engine bay looks like a head of Nappy hair. Loose wires, Knotted wires :huh:, wires with no insulation lying on hot parts, etc...

There's more but I'm sure you get the point and remembering them all will just make my head hurt more.

Thing is...take all that stuff out of the equation and the truck doesn't run as strong as it should. Take the turbo out of the equation it's a fully built 6L with H/C and by itself it should put more to the wheels than 340 rwhp which is what I got when I dyno'd it at 3lbs of boost at which point she ran out of MAF.

Things I know that are not wrong with the set-up...
1. Engine. Rex is a sicko perfectionist and goes nuts when something feels wrong. I have a feeling that the engine was dropped or got slammed into the truck during install not just because of the cracked oil pan but the Harmonic balancer was bent pretty far out of whack during first start up...rex went ballistic when he saw that. Another reason I have faith in his work and profesionalism and if he felt something wasn't right with it he'd pull it back out himself.
2. Engine combo and specs. If a engine was eatible I think Richard would eat them for breakfast lunch and dinner. Excellent customer service and honestly his rep speaks for itself really. And he's such a great guy to work with too.:hail:
3. Tranny...FLT...enough said.
4. STS turbo. Worked great with my 5.3L and loved every aspect of it.
5. Tune. Tuner is a reputable FI GM tuner and spark and fuel look good.

Based on the list of problems above I feel there's something else I haven't found yet that is the culprit of the loss of power. If I can't figure this out I will just throw my 5.3L and 60E back in and see if I can't put the 6L engine and tranny combo in something fun and SIMPLER and sell the turbo, or sell all of it.

I'm done ranting now! :)
Peace

so your coming to carlsbad??

Damn julien that friggin sucks... :cry: :cry: :cry:

-Rob

tackle one issue at a time and sooner or later you will have them licked. Hot Rodding can be very frustrating but the good news is it's all fixable:)

tackle one issue at a time and sooner or later you will have them licked. Hot Rodding can be very frustrating but the good news is it's all fixable:)

Yeah, I just wish I had the gargae and tools to do it myself. I'd probably be as meticulous as you when if I were to do it myself. I'm just tired of having to throw out more money for something that should of been done right the first time.
I'll know on friday if I'm gonna make the trek down to SD.

Spoolin I haven't been on the forum in a while and hate to here about the problems your haveing! Hope it all irons out soon!

Have you talked to original shop about all their screw ups? Im sure you have just interested what excuse they made for their piss poor work. Hang in there man it will all be worth it in the end, atleast thats what I keep telling myself:eyes:

Spoolin I haven't been on the forum in a while and hate to here about the problems your haveing! Hope it all irons out soon!
Hey Fred...did you ever do anything with your drive shaft? You have a one piece Aluminum one right? You ever have any problems with it or you still running the stock ones? And yeah, thanks bro, I wish it would of gone as simple and easy as yours went but I'm sure when I chill out a little I'll get back on track. I'm buying another car on monday so at least I won't have to get in my truck every day and get upset... :)

Have you talked to original shop about all their screw ups? Im sure you have just interested what excuse they made for their piss poor work. Hang in there man it will all be worth it in the end, atleast thats what I keep telling myself:eyes:

Thanks Cody,
Yeah I've been back to them a few times and they really don't care. Well that's not fair to say. They are good guys but they primarily work on classic cars and dragsters which is where their expertise lies. They were way over their heads with this and I wasn't wise enough to recognize it and they weren't honest with me from the begining about alot of things. (Not gonna go into detail because it would just be whinning)
Basically anytime I go back to them they aren't happy to see my truck, amd fact is they just wish I would go away and I pretty much feel the same way.
On top of which they want to charge me with parts and labor for fixing what they never completed, which I'm not ok with and if I'm gonna pay for it it's gonna be JPA fixing it.

man that sucks, but dont give up hope, it will be all worth it in the end, your truck is gonna be badass.

Why didn't you just have JPA just do the engine install? Couldn't Richard do it too?

IMO the less shops you take it to the better. Especially shops where you don't have a personal relationship with the owner. I think you'd be better off aquiring tools and learning how to do it yourself. You seem like you have a great mechanical understanding of things too. Remember, nobody cares as much about your truck as you do. :D

Why didn't you just have JPA just do the engine install? Couldn't Richard do it too?

IMO the less shops you take it to the better. Especially shops where you don't have a personal relationship with the owner. I think you'd be better off aquiring tools and learning how to do it yourself. You seem like you have a great mechanical understanding of things too. Remember, nobody cares as much about your truck as you do. :D

I wish Richard could do it but he doesn't have the shop for it or the time! Watching him work makes me tired sometimes... :nod:
And I had already started working with the other shop before I met Brian@JPA even though I was tempted to tow my truck to him on several occasions...live and learn I guess.
When I get a place with more space I'll invest in some tools and even a lift :)
I am a marine engineer so you'd think I could at least figure some things out right? Lol

I would like to add a bit to this topic. I am not saying one shop is better than the other, but the ONE thing I preach is KEEP YOUR COMBINATION SIMPLE. When you start adding TONS of modifications all at once it is harder to diagnose issues and work through problems. I am not saying that the "package" that you have is good or bad, I am saying if you had dropped your truck off here I would have instructed you to do things differently. I preach this over and over again, and I know Spookin has heard me.


If anyone can learn anything from this thread it is keep things simple.........one or two mods at a time. There are a few projects going on here that could benefit from this advice.

I would like to add a bit to this topic. I am not saying one shop is better than the other, but the ONE thing I preach is KEEP YOUR COMBINATION SIMPLE. When you start adding TONS of modifications all at once it is harder to diagnose issues and work through problems. I am not saying that the "package" that you have is good or bad, I am saying if you had dropped your truck off here I would have instructed you to do things differently. I preach this over and over again, and I know Spookin has heard me.


If anyone can learn anything from this thread it is keep things simple.........one or two mods at a time. There are a few projects going on here that could benefit from this advice. Hey Brian, I could not agree with you more. When I did wrenching, I had combos that were proven performance and reliabilty. So i guess you are going to fix some of his problems?

...So i guess you are going to fix some of his problems?

Found out I might be going to china next week and will be gone for a month. I'm am going up north this weekend for some work and spoke with Rick@Synergy and he's gonna take my truck while I'm in China. I'll get into more detail as to what's gonna happen later and as I know more.

I would like to add a bit to this topic. I am not saying one shop is better than the other, but the ONE thing I preach is KEEP YOUR COMBINATION SIMPLE. When you start adding TONS of modifications all at once it is harder to diagnose issues and work through problems. I am not saying that the "package" that you have is good or bad, I am saying if you had dropped your truck off here I would have instructed you to do things differently. I preach this over and over again, and I know Spookin has heard me.


If anyone can learn anything from this thread it is keep things simple.........one or two mods at a time. There are a few projects going on here that could benefit from this advice.

:werd:
Good advice that came a little too late in the build for me but worth noting nevertheless.

Sorry to read about all your troubles, however as stated, it will definitely be worth it in the end. Good luck Spoolin, stay safe in China.

Yo Julien u said u'll be gone for about a month right??? does this mean ur not gonna be around for the next g2g in september???

-Rob

Yo Julien u said u'll be gone for about a month right??? does this mean ur not gonna be around for the next g2g in september???

-Rob
I'm gonna find out tomorrow wether or not I'm shipping out. I'll post up if I'm heading out.

Just flew back from Synergy where I dropped my truck off this morning...
Want to thank 2004Denali and Trever1t who drove out and met me at the shop where I got to :drool: over Bill's truck :hail: and got a sneak peak at the monster Mark is building! :eek2:
I think the truck is in good hands with Rick. I saw that sick twin turbo truck he just built...holy crap! But I think Rick will be able to help me out with my issues. There might be a change in plans but not sure if it will be feasible yet. But more on that at a later. :devil:

You'll be in good hands. I'd be more worried about catching something from all that Chinese poontang.

Julien,
Glad you made it Home.
I will keep an eye on your truck and let you know how it is going when I go down and visit my truck over the next month and a half.
It was good to finally meet you.
Mark

Front Mount:devil:

Julien,
Glad you made it Home.
I will keep an eye on your truck and let you know how it is going when I go down and visit my truck over the next month and a half.
It was good to finally meet you.
Mark
Thanks mark, Glad I finally got up there since having to bail on the denali gtg earlier this summer. Glad I got a chance to meet a few of the NorCal PT boys. Thank you for offering me a ride to the airport and making sure I got there ok. Feel free to take pics and update my thread while I'm gone if your bored! :grin:
Haven't been excited about my truck for 2 months so this is a welcome feeling again.

Front Mount:devil:

:secret2: :devil:

:secret2: :devil:
Building one for my truck has been looking better and better the more I have looked into, I just love the sound of a blower screaming, Im torn:confused::jest:

I just love the sound of a blower screaming, Im torn:confused::jest:
This was a hard choice for me also, You just gotta love the sound of getting BLOWN :)

Just flew back from Synergy where I dropped my truck off this morning...
Want to thank 2004Denali and Trever1t who drove out and met me at the shop where I got to :drool: over Bill's truck :hail: and got a sneak peak at the monster Mark is building! :eek2:
I think the truck is in good hands with Rick. I saw that sick twin turbo truck he just built...holy crap! But I think Rick will be able to help me out with my issues. There might be a change in plans but not sure if it will be feasible yet. But more on that at a later. :devil:

Hey man it was good to meet you this morning! You must be wiped out with the drive up and the flight back all in one day :eek2:
Your truck is in good hands and you can relax and know that when you come back from Asia the only thing you'll need to worry about is having worked enough to cover Rick's invoice :)

...when you come back from Asia the only thing you'll need to worry about is having worked enough to cover Rick's invoice :)
Nahhh you must of misunderstood what he was saying. Mine's gonna be on the house and he's just gonna be billing you and mark extra to cover any labor! It was really nice of you guys to offer your tabs to me! Will think of you when I'm walking throught the asian Massage parlor's! :)

:jest: No problem. :cheers:

Dude...I feel ur pain!!!! I just got back from 2wks vaca and there's a good chance mine will be ready this week. DezRacing in MA has had it the past 3-4wks and even he says the truck just doesn't wanna be built! I last had it Jun 26! Its been one issue after another...once properly tuned by SlowHawk @ Dez all we had was 415/425 @ 8lbs and 2.8 pulley :( ...so we went to an underdrive pulley, and we'll have the meth pumping...with all that we shud approach 11ish lbs +/- and we all expect close to 500/500 after that. I must admit the 4L80 is robbing way more power than I expected (at least 75rwhp)...I'm scared to see what the final tally will be! R/

Dude...I feel ur pain!!!! I just got back from 2wks vaca and there's a good chance mine will be ready this week. DezRacing in MA has had it the past 3-4wks and even he says the truck just doesn't wanna be built! I last had it Jun 26! Its been one issue after another...once properly tuned by SlowHawk @ Dez all we had was 415/425 @ 8lbs and 2.8 pulley :( ...so we went to an underdrive pulley, and we'll have the meth pumping...with all that we shud approach 11ish lbs +/- and we all expect close to 500/500 after that. I must admit the 4L80 is robbing way more power than I expected (at least 75rwhp)...I'm scared to see what the final tally will be! R/

doesn't add up to me bro. I made 432/443 with a 6L/MP112 @ 7lbs of boost. Something is off.

I dunno either...spoke to Brian this am about it too. 4L80 is part of it, and maybe the cam is the rest (?) (214/218, .559/.562 @ 114 LC). I finally have a tuner with experience and I think I can trust. thot maybe compression cud be another issue and I'm gonna check if its 9.4 or 9.0, but I can't see that making much diff. Apperently no leaks, oil press is good (even a little high), spark is good, maybe needs another in tank pump? maybe the 60# inj aren't enuf? ...either way, I'll take it and put some more miles on it and see if it doesn't loosen up. Any ideas u have are welcome. R/

man i just cought up on this thread. It sounds like you have ran into some of my luck. I have had my problems with the 408 i just had rebuilt in july. It now is going back to the machine shop to get rebuilt again. I am sure Rick will take care of you.

Julien, i also just got to get caught up on your situation. First let me say, i feel your pain and we all know what your going through. I know things will work out especially with all the good things I here about Synergy. I'll keep my fingers crossed for you anyways. Have fun in China and stay safe.

She said "you like fuckie suckie long time sailor?" :usa:

She said "you like fuckie suckie long time sailor?" :usa:

I say...no biatch...I don't know if you've noticed but I'm too handsome to pay for sex! You wanna suckie-fuckie you pay me!
I'll make sure and bring you back some bird-flu brian, maybe it'll turn you into a nice respectable guy with manners and a delightful sense of humor...:eyes:.
:jest:

Thanks guys. When I called Rick last week I was planning on pulling the motor, tranny and turbo out and selling it off and sticking the stock stuff back in. Speaking with Rick and then meeting him convinced me to give this truck a second chance. It's not that I don't think it will work it's that I'm tired of paying to see if someone can do the job right.
I'm shipping out on tuesday night so I'll be gone and without internet for a month so. Hopfully I'll have something nice to come home too.

Dude...I feel ur pain!!!! I just got back from 2wks vaca and there's a good chance mine will be ready this week. DezRacing in MA has had it the past 3-4wks and even he says the truck just doesn't wanna be built! I last had it Jun 26! Its been one issue after another...once properly tuned by SlowHawk @ Dez all we had was 415/425 @ 8lbs and 2.8 pulley :( ...so we went to an underdrive pulley, and we'll have the meth pumping...with all that we shud approach 11ish lbs +/- and we all expect close to 500/500 after that. I must admit the 4L80 is robbing way more power than I expected (at least 75rwhp)...I'm scared to see what the final tally will be! R/

Sorry to hear about all your troubles as well! I assumed since your thread isn't as active anymore that things were going well. I hope that this most recent shop can find the root of your issues. And am surprised to say the least how much HP the 80E has robbed. At first I thought it wasn't running right but I think I took the 80E and it's HP robbing a little too lightly. Just means I get to boost if higher!! :)
PS start your thread back up, I would like to hear more about how she's progressing! Best of luck bro!

Soon as I get it back I plan to post a bunch more photos and updates. Hoping to hear by mid-week what the status is...man this is just painful. I'll tell ya I'm still thinkin of putting the stocker back together!!! This is costing me a fortune and I have no idea why I can't get the power levels I shud have...I gotta believe the cam is part of it. R/
BTW - THANKS FOR SERVING :usa:

Aight boys and girls!! See ya'll in a month! Good luck with all your projects and cross your fingers that Rick can work his magic. Hopefully I'll check in when in China and I'll take some picture of some young girls for you Brian. You're a pervert but I won't hold that against you! :hump:

:usa::usa::nod::nod:

Send me some too! lol, keep it safe and dont worry about the truck....it's just a mmachine, it can be made new again. :usa:

Julien, Stay safe, I want pictures too ;)
I will check on your truck every coupe of weeks
:usa:
Mark

Aight boys and girls!! See ya'll in a month! Good luck with all your projects and cross your fingers that Rick can work his magic. Hopefully I'll check in when in China and I'll take some picture of some young girls for you Brian. You're a pervert but I won't hold that against you! :hump:

:usa::usa::nod::nod:
Thanks, you are the man :gruffy:

just got back from Ricks and I snapped a few pictures of Julien's Truck
http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j186/markhelmandollar/9-03-07-motor016.jpg

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j186/markhelmandollar/9-03-07-motor015.jpg

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j186/markhelmandollar/9-03-07-motor014.jpg

WoW... looks awesome im sure he'll be extremely happy when he see's it. any more progress on it???

-Rob

those heater hoses look like they might have to much tension on them. Is that wiring post clean-up or pre clean-up?

Dipstick is going in between the wrong primaries, it should go between 6 and 8 not 4 and 6.

i spoke to my bro today from the ship... he is doing well and cant wait to get his truck back... all going well rick? any luck yet unleashing some of that pent up HP??

any updates?

Hopefully Rick is busy working on my truck ;)
I will check on the progress when I go there this week
Mark

anything?

I thik Julien is still in Asia......nice sig bud!

isn't Rick @ Synergy working on this thing?

Yeah, it's at Rick's shop. Haven't talked to Rick about it though.......

I guess no news is good news.....still like to know how homeboys truck is running!

I was talking with Rick yesterday about Julliens Truck, But I am not at liberty to give a status on the truck before Rick talks to Jullien.
Mark

I was talking with Rick yesterday about Julliens Truck, But I am not at liberty to give a status on the truck before Rick talks to Jullien.
Mark
rut ohhh

I was talking with Rick yesterday about Julliens Truck, But I am not at liberty to give a status on the truck before Rick talks to Jullien.
Mark

well that comment can go either way, not sure how to interpret that, I hope for Julian's sake it's to the positive :nod:

I hope so too. I will see him, and his truck next weekend at the Synergy event. Why don't you guys come up?

GEEZ wat comment hope it is positive tho i think he gets back 2morrow....

-Rob

yea, this is dave... i am picking up julien tomorrow from the ship... he already knows as I spoke to rick for him on thursday and then talked to my bro through the ships email...

julien is actually glad to hear the news and things will be just fine...

rick did fix a lot of issues with the truck and the last issue should hopefully be done soon as long as rick has the time! I wish i could come up this weekend... gotta run an academy - www.usabodyguards.com (bodyguard courses)

Hey Dave, what did I miss? What's up with it?

well?

Hey guys, guess who's back from the land of the little yellow people!! I got some good pics and vids to share as soon as I'm done unpacking and paying bills.
Just so no one's in the dark anymore...
Turns out I have a blown head gasket, at least that's what Rick's thinking! He was gonna install my new two-piece DS the other day and in the process he pulled some plugs and checked the oil and it came out like a Venti White Chocolate Mocha!! Rick is gonna pull the heads and see where she blew by. If it is something else... :(
When I get my life back together in a few days I'll let you guys no more.

Hey Grip, next thread I'm reading is yours, excited to see some progress pics!!

Hey guys, guess who's back from the land of the little yellow people!! I got some good pics and vids to share as soon as I'm done unpacking and paying bills.
Just so no one's in the dark anymore...
Turns out I have a blown head gasket, at least that's what Rick's thinking! He was gonna install my new two-piece DS the other day and in the process he pulled some plugs and checked the oil and it came out like a Venti White Chocolate Mocha!! Rick is gonna pull the heads and see where she blew by. If it is something else... :(
When I get my life back together in a few days I'll let you guys no more.

Hey Grip, next thread I'm reading is yours, excited to see some progress pics!!

Welcome back from the land of the little yellow people, i hope you didn't catch that asian disease Rotchacockoff, its bad

Hey wats up Julien good to see ur back home and in good health hopefully everything with the truck will come together in the next couple of days/weeks. sp how was the trip any horror story???

Hey Grip, next thread I'm reading is yours, excited to see some progress pics!!
:jest: :huh: :jest: You haven't missed anything :D

good deal bro, good to have you back:)

:jest: :huh: :jest: You haven't missed anything :D
:rotflmao: aint it the truth :angel:

Spoke to Rick today and his assumptions were right and I blew the driver's side head gasket. I think it happened on the way down to SD in Early August when my boost controller spiked and I hit 17 lbs. When he pulled the heads he said that the bank looked like it had about 200,000 miles on it from all the burnt oil. :barf:
Won't be done by the show but I'll be up there anyways for moral support!
I don't have any pictures but maybe rick does but I didn't ask him.

That sucks Julien, what does he have to do to get it all cleaned up for ya?

He cleaned up the pistons and cylinder walls and he sent the heads out to get honned a bit so their's a smoother surface to work with. Other than that he said he was mounting up the new 2 piece DS today. Said should be done next week. I'll drive up my in beater on friday night for the show on Sat. Doesn't look like I'm gonna be giving anyone any competition in the dyno pulls. :(

Shit Jullien, I just spent the hole day at Ricks, I should have taken some pictures for you. I didn't think about it. We had a small crisis with my truck that we had to figure out.
your truck and mine can sit in the unfinished corner:D

HAHA, thanks mark! That's what Rick said. I might as well bring a beach chair with me and a cooler and you and I can sit by our wounded trucks and drink our sorrow's away!! You mentioned in your thread he took care of your crisis so I'm glad that it's been taken care of! Not sure if I wanna see how nasty my pistons looked though. Probably put about 3000 miles on it with a blown head gasket. What kind of damage could that of caused?

they just had a lot of carbon build up on them and it took a while to scape it off,

Hi Julien. Welcome home! :wavey:
Sorry to read about your wounded truck. I'm amazed that you were able to drive it so far with a blown head gasket. Let me know if I can help out with the cylinder heads in any way.
Any idea what the oil carbon build up is from? Is the turbo seal causing this?

Give me a call when you get settled in and fill me in on the gory details. :barf:

Your overseas adventure looks awesome :nod: Maybe we can trade places for a month. :jest:

Richard :)

Ahh, you guys can park right next to me, I don't mind. :D

Hi Julien. Welcome home! :wavey:
Sorry to read about your wounded truck. I'm amazed that you were able to drive it so far with a blown head gasket. Let me know if I can help out with the cylinder heads in any way.
Any idea what the oil carbon build up is from? Is the turbo seal causing this?

Give me a call when you get settled in and fill me in on the gory details. :barf:


Thanks Richard, when I return from the car show I will fill you in on what Rick found and what the status is so far.


Your overseas adventure looks awesome :nod: Maybe we can trade places for a month. :jest:

Richard :)
And thank you for the offer but I don't think I could hack a day in your shoes. That and the fact that you work too damn hard. I'm lazy and could never wake up at the ungodly hours you do. For instance today I woke up at 11:30 am, and that was only cuz someone decided to call me that early! :(
I will touch base with you soon
Julien

glad you truck is getting to where it should be .

id like to come up to the show this weekend but i dont even have my truck right now. blew the dam trans again .

we are going to be at the track the end of this month and i should have the truck ready for the 1st of december at ca speedway street legals.

you should come and run that thing.

glad you truck is getting to where it should be .

id like to come up to the show this weekend but i dont even have my truck right now. blew the dam trans again .

we are going to be at the track the end of this month and i should have the truck ready for the 1st of december at ca speedway street legals.

you should come and run that thing.

If I'm in town then count me in Chase. Even if I don't bring my truck to run (crossing my fingers) I'll come to shoot some vids for anyone that's running. I figure that might be a good time also to get Mark's Denali out on the track his should be done by then and maybe if we're lucky Brian and Devin too.

Alrighty sooo....
Here's some ugly shots of what's left of my shiny new pistons...

http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i189/Flovian/CIMG2048.jpg

http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i189/Flovian/CIMG2049.jpg

http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i189/Flovian/CIMG2050.jpg

http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i189/Flovian/CIMG2051.jpg

Julien...glad to hear ur back! Sorry to hear about ur probs...U can join mine back in the shop too! Urs sounds better than mine...I got blow-by and it looks like rings were washed down...they're pullin my motor 2mrw and who knows when I'll get it back! R/

Julien...glad to hear ur back! Sorry to hear about ur probs...U can join mine back in the shop too! Urs sounds better than mine...I got blow-by and it looks like rings were washed down...they're pullin my motor 2mrw and who knows when I'll get it back! R/
Ouch, sorry to hear about that! Luckily my engine still looks to be solid still. Rick cut open the Oil filter and checked for any metal shavings and it looked really promising.
I'll be checking in on your thread for any updates. Hope it's good news...you'd think we're due for some right?

Why were the heads pulled?

Blew a head gasket while driving it around like a Grandma! go figure

How does that happen? Bad gasket or improper installation or did you accidentally over-boost it or something. I have never heard of someone blowing a head gasket jsut driving around normal.

Spoke to Rick today and his assumptions were right and I blew the driver's side head gasket. I think it happened on the way down to SD in Early August when my boost controller spiked and I hit 17 lbs. When he pulled the heads he said that the bank looked like it had about 200,000 miles on it from all the burnt oil. :barf:
Won't be done by the show but I'll be up there anyways for moral support!
I don't have any pictures but maybe rick does but I didn't ask him.

here ya go

I figured it had to be over-boosting, I wonder why it blew at 17#s, I figured with the quality heads and studs it could handle more, makes me second guess my decision on my getting the edelbrocks for my motor. Stock castings have made it to 16#s multiple times with no problems.:confused:

Are you running head studs? I bet the brief moment that you hit 17 pounds it was pretty bad ass! I guess I can take those wheels off your hands until you get up and running again:devil:

Truck wasn't tuned when it boosted to 17#'s. Happened on the freeway when I was passing someone at quarter throttle and looked up at my boost gauge and it read 17# then heard a loud pop. Running stock MAP and hadn't been tuned for boost yet. Been running it in vacuum from day 1 trying to break it in N/A. When I was passing it felt normal like any typical quarter throttle acceleration except for the boost and the sound. Trust me I would of felt 17lbs in my butt dyno.