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MorepowerTY
09-30-2006, 02:27 PM
I was looking up the SS vs Titan, to see what kind of numbers I would come across, and found the forum of "Titantalk.com, the war stories" I read quite a bit of their stories. One thing that I found odd was, most of them where saying that they could walk away from the SS, keep in mind too, this was in May of 05'. The SS was an AWD with the LQ9. Some of you problably have already seen this site, but I thought I would share it with you all. Alot of the stories were about different things, for example: Titan beats a Hemi, or Ram vs Titan, SS vs Titan, SS won't mess with me anymore, etc. You get the point. Anyway, after reading alot of their stories, one of them stood out at me, and it was a stock vs stock, Titan beat an SS by 2 lenghts. Well, I thought to myself this couldn't be true, could it? So I scrolled to another topic called SS vs Titan, and there was a guy named SSjohathan introducing himself, and wanted to add some comments. The comments were, Yeah, this guy couldn't have beat an SS by 2 trucks, things like this. I didn't think it was true by the way, not stock for stock anyway. These were Titan guys letting him know that an SS is very fast, and could beat the Titan, but with the Titan, you get more for your buck. It was funny to me because once he was on the message board, they stopped talking smack about the SS. Now, I will be the first to admit, that the Titan is a fast truck as well as the Hemi's and Lightings, and I do like all nice, fast trucks. Most of you will say that the Titan is not fast, because of all the mods you have, like having superchargers. But if you only have a stock truck like me, and never had all the mods that some of you have, then yes, other trucks are competitve to what you have. Don't get me wrong, my SS is fast, but there's always someone faster. Anyway, by reading their stories, they were all pro Titans and that nothing else could beat them. This is why I like this site, because we all talk to each other about our mods, and yes on occasion, we will bash each other, but thats normal. The bottom line is that we stick together in here, and talk about different things and become friends. I'm sure there are other sites like them also, but I will stick with this one. Well, I'm done with my little story, and I just wanted to share it with you all. I know that Sobegraphics will know what i'm talking about. By the way, the SS will beat the Titan!! LOL :lol: Now I can't wait to build my motor.

Tan327
09-30-2006, 02:38 PM
I think the SS vs Titan is a great matchup, there was a video of one stock Titan vs another Titan with a CAI. Both were EC 4x4's and ran 14.9's, which is what stock SS's usually hit. You can't get much closer than that!

TouchOfEvil04
09-30-2006, 02:44 PM
Every site you go to will have that man. Hell did you see the link to the Prius site lol?
It's really simple if you think about it.No matter what people drive they will be a loyalist because they drive it simple as that.
The Titan guys say they win the Hemi says they do the chevy say they do etc etc.
If you want aa honest opinion from myself...i ahve been to the track several times.Most of it when i was completely stock or had just a cai and a diablo programmer on my truck.
Stock for stock i beat Titans every single time. I also have a friend who owns one.We have raced at least 6 times and not once did he ever beat me.Not for a dig roll anything.
Hemi stock for stock vs us we will lose.
You can get off your high horse we will lose.Yes we can mode very easy and roll them like no tomorrow but not in stock form.
Also alot of people will say of Bullshit i beat a stock hemi when i was stock.
Was it the same type of truck though? Reg cab vs reg cab ec vs ec?
Get what i'm saying.
I have no problem addmitting it if i lose.I don't race becasue i ahve to win i race because it's fun and i enjoy doin it.
If you can't go out race 5 races and come home with a 1-4 night without being pissed off about it then you have the wrong hobby.IMO.
I know alot of guys out in my area who will not race unless they know they will win or at least should win.Thats bullshit and your scared of what?
Stop being a bunch of panzys and admit it when you lose it's ok it happens to everyone.

the head
10-01-2006, 08:36 AM
I ran a stock SS back when I had my titan stock. He ran a 14.9, I ran a 15.1. And that's pretty consistent every time I've been to the track, the SS is faster, period. I think the titans that win must not have anything in the bed and a lone driver versus an SS with something in the back and a few people in it. But that's my experience with them.

I used to be a regular at Titan Talk, but I don't like some of the moderators there and some of the members talk smack without backing it up or even knowing what they're talking about.

As far as this forum goes, there is just as much brand loyalty (or more) than anywhere else I've been. But that's to be expected on a forum that has more than one brand on it.

5.3AlmnBlk
10-01-2006, 11:43 PM
There is a thread on how a 5.3 ho stayed halflength behind a titan.

trever1t
10-02-2006, 07:02 AM
I don't race becasue i ahve to win i race because it's fun and i enjoy doin it :judge:

I think we need to see some video line-ups of Titans vs. X :)

And MorepowerTY, I agree. PT.net rocks! :hail:

XLR8NSS
10-02-2006, 02:16 PM
Well I raced a titan from a roll and I will say that he was pulling ever so slightly on the top end. They must trap at or just a hair faster than an SS. It seemed I had more grunt down low which is probably from the slightly bigger engine and 4.10 gears. I ain't saying anything bad about a Titan because they are right there with us performance wise, just they don't have the aftermarket. :(

As a matter of fact Titans, Rams(hemi) and the GM's are so close it might just come down to the driver knowing where their truck performs best or wether they got a factory freak or not.

Like The Head mentioned I think the SS is faster in stock form but, with the two being that close it would just be a matter of who hit the gas faster. :judge:

ogkevin13
10-02-2006, 02:54 PM
i have been to the track several times and IMHO titans are quick but slow out of the whole. on the 1/8 i seen 5.3 take out titans but the titan is creeping up. ive seen alot of stock titans and my brother has a stock titan just flowmaster and he fastest 1/8 was 10.00 ive never seen nothin than 9.9 on a stock titan. :) but my brother knows not to mess with my lil 5.3 with a little help of a turbo :) :)

TouchOfEvil04
10-02-2006, 07:11 PM
:judge:

I think we need to see some video line-ups of Titans vs. X :)

And MorepowerTY, I agree. PT.net rocks! :hail:
In all honestly i am completely lost? Titans vs anything or vs me? :(

sleeper357
10-02-2006, 07:50 PM
In all honestly i am completely lost? Titans vs anything or vs me? :(

Against you ? :eek2:

I would still think that a stock ecab 5.3 w/4.10's would be a good race from a dig for the titan.

MorepowerTY
10-02-2006, 09:34 PM
Ok. now I'm lost too. Some people say they beat the Titan with a 5.3, and some say the Titan stays up with an SS. Now, I know the SS will beat a 5.3 stock, because I've had both, the SS is much faster. I'm just gonna have to race one myself to see what happens. Like I said in my other thread, this one jug head roars by me in the mornings some time with his exhaust. I'm gonna have run him down and find out.
And Trever, did you get those wheels yet?

Hydramatic
10-08-2006, 04:34 AM
You know, I raced my buddies old '06 QC 2wd Titan from a roll, and I was thoroughly surprised. I wanted a rematch because he caught me in the infamous "death zone" Where the truck doesn't kick down into first. I should have known better. He pulled me by about a length and a half before I gave up and admitted defeat at about 90mph. I still want a rematch, but that is impossible now. He traded his Titan for an '06 Jetta GLI. Badass little car by the way.

bluecajun5.3
10-08-2006, 04:48 AM
Ok. now I'm lost too. Some people say they beat the Titan with a 5.3, and some say the Titan stays up with an SS. Now, I know the SS will beat a 5.3 stock, because I've had both, the SS is much faster. I'm just gonna have to race one myself to see what happens. Like I said in my other thread, this one jug head roars by me in the mornings some time with his exhaust. I'm gonna have run him down and find out.
And Trever, did you get those wheels yet?
not a rcsb 5.3

gtosilverado
10-08-2006, 11:07 PM
a regular cab is faster than an ss.... cuz i have a stock 5.3 rcsb (well it was stock) and i beat ss trucks and titans....so i guess it also depends on the driver ??

1fstrst
10-08-2006, 11:32 PM
NEVER lost to a titan

ogkevin13
10-09-2006, 12:43 AM
ive seen 5.3 take titans but i dunno about ss. ss rip off the line but u never know. n e vidz?

5.3AlmnBlk
10-09-2006, 11:34 AM
Stock titan vs Silverado 02 muffler

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6plRPdMCBuc

trever1t
10-09-2006, 11:39 AM
Haha, I had a Titan rev up at me yesterday, I wanted to run him bad but the little lady made me make my turn and let him go...damn that was hard.

RB's Titan
10-12-2006, 09:29 PM
Well since there are a few folks talking about titans I figured I'd chime in. Not sure where the other threads have gone in this section?

First a 2006 SS 4x2 xcab with a K&N ran a 14.9 the same night I ran 15.2. So I admit the SS did win.

I have a 04 CrewCab LE the biggest nearly heaviest Titan on the road 5360lbs me in it 1/8th tank gas. Stock in 90F heat I ran 15.8. Now I run 14.74...

To get there I had to:
1. drop in the big tow gear 3.36 from the 2.94
2. Volant CAI and Banks muffler.
3. TruTrac
4. wait for cooler weather
5. learn to drive

We do not have access to other gears that we can buy even with our rear being Dana....Dana Hybrid that is...However we do have a Detroit TruTrac finally.

We don't have plug and play programmers or more than one choice of superchargers or a single choice of turbo.

So to race in a Titan thinking to be the fastest "truck" is ludicrous. As there are faster trucks as anyone can see at the track on any given day. Right now when looking at dragtimes there’s only two trucks to break into the 13’s and about 6 in the 14’s. One of those 13’s was my Rocket Science teacher...he knows who he is…grin

I have posted a few times on this website and have received jabs from some Chevy owners however this I can deal with as a foreigner from Texas…LOL. Most I’m sure were thinking I was a troll or trying to start some crap. But hey for most of you the Titan is an off the beaten path entertaining subject but for me it’s all I got and I do like to see her improve herself as she matures.

If I can talk trucks and learn from others non Titan I’m all for it. I have actually met several of the Chevy guys at HRP and enjoyed our chats. I’ve seen some nice times from a “Farm” truck, a “V8” sleeper RC and an SS blazr “Storm”.

So lay into me if you want. Ask questions if you want. But whatever your decision is I still own a truck and mash the pedal just like you. Let the wheels spin.

xchevyx24
10-15-2006, 12:19 PM
ive raced 2 titans so far # 1 a cc 4wd and he beat me off the line but i almost completly caught up by 50 then proceded to pass him by about 90 i had a truck on him # 2 a xtra cab 2wd beat me off the line agin and never totally caught up to him but we ended at around 65 and i was at his door so they are really fast for STOCK trucks

SoBeGraphics
10-17-2006, 08:38 PM
Ah sh!t stop the press an SS goes down in flames!

so i'm on my way home and i pass up this new looking red chevy silverado SS. you know i gotta give him a hear of the banks as i pull a bit hard from a light. i watch in my mirrors and i see him pull from the crowd and creep up on my left. I'm see i'm getting a bite and i slow up a bit. I see the light ahead is red and i am making my left on it. damn i think he is going straight. bummer but then he pulls in behind me in the double left lane and switches over to the far left lane. We're side by side in the left turn lane. At this point i know i got a bite so i start "reeling" I know the area well so i give him a little pull but watch the traffic ahead so I can time so we're side by side at the next light which preceeds an awesome stretch of 3 lane road with almost no side streets for about a 1/4 mile. Good news boss hog good news! We line up at the light. Him on the left, me in the center, and guess who pulls up on the right... an older Dodge RC SS/T (the one with those double racing stripes) . The Dodge had a gauge pod so i was like WHOA! Perfect Storm kinda sh!t. I look left and i see the guy give me "the grin" his girl friend was laughing. I look right and the with the Dodge sees the guy in the SS give the grin and i yell, AHHHH YEAH IT'S ON!! I drop it in N and give it a yell and settle in 4 w/big tow on and wait for the light. I swear i think i got a lazy one. lol The light goes green and the SS got a lil launch on me but the T got a longer launch. I think it was the shift that got him because he spent the rest of the ride to 80 with his headlights at my shoulder. He pulled off at 80 and since it was night i turned on the inside lights on raise both arms in victory. What a rush. The dodge... didn't even go and pulled up at the next light. I asked what happened and he said "you crazy i wudda got dogged. Your sh!t has 50 hp more than me stock." I said "so what you shoulda gave it a go." He also said, "your sh!t sounds nice." Oh yeah beeeochs I'm on 24's!! ahh yeah!

ogkevin13
10-19-2006, 03:07 PM
i ran my cuzins titan today he has all da bolt ons and tune and yea nothing much to say but he prob can remember my rear licence plate numbers 4 the 3 secs he could read it as i pulled away :)

SoBeGraphics
10-19-2006, 04:03 PM
Last i checked it was an SS vs Titan thread but thanks for your input.

XLR8NSS
10-19-2006, 09:10 PM
Ah sh!t stop the press an SS goes down in flames!

so i'm on my way home and i pass up this new looking red chevy silverado SS. you know i gotta give him a hear of the banks as i pull a bit hard from a light. i watch in my mirrors and i see him pull from the crowd and creep up on my left. I'm see i'm getting a bite and i slow up a bit. I see the light ahead is red and i am making my left on it. damn i think he is going straight. bummer but then he pulls in behind me in the double left lane and switches over to the far left lane. We're side by side in the left turn lane. At this point i know i got a bite so i start "reeling" I know the area well so i give him a little pull but watch the traffic ahead so I can time so we're side by side at the next light which preceeds an awesome stretch of 3 lane road with almost no side streets for about a 1/4 mile. Good news boss hog good news! We line up at the light. Him on the left, me in the center, and guess who pulls up on the right... an older Dodge RC SS/T (the one with those double racing stripes) . The Dodge had a gauge pod so i was like WHOA! Perfect Storm kinda sh!t. I look left and i see the guy give me "the grin" his girl friend was laughing. I look right and the with the Dodge sees the guy in the SS give the grin and i yell, AHHHH YEAH IT'S ON!! I drop it in N and give it a yell and settle in 4 w/big tow on and wait for the light. I swear i think i got a lazy one. lol The light goes green and the SS got a lil launch on me but the T got a longer launch. I think it was the shift that got him because he spent the rest of the ride to 80 with his headlights at my shoulder. He pulled off at 80 and since it was night i turned on the inside lights on raise both arms in victory. What a rush. The dodge... didn't even go and pulled up at the next light. I asked what happened and he said "you crazy i wudda got dogged. Your sh!t has 50 hp more than me stock." I said "so what you shoulda gave it a go." He also said, "your sh!t sounds nice." Oh yeah beeeochs I'm on 24's!! ahh yeah!

Sounds like a good run, congrats. :cheers:

I want to run into that Titan again that I raced a while back. :devil: :D ;)

SoBeGraphics
10-19-2006, 09:31 PM
Poor T I will pray for 'em. This guys was a stocker SS for sure.

RB's Titan
10-19-2006, 09:55 PM
i ran my cuzins titan today he has all da bolt ons and tune and yea nothing much to say but he prob can remember my rear licence plate numbers 4 the 3 secs he could read it as i pulled away :)

Say Og....Good kill man....By the way we dont have a tuner....unless you call +2 degrees timing a tune...NOT!

Say there's no comparison boosted vs NA or for that matter boosted Chevy vs NA Titan (no aftermarket) the Chevy wins....easy race. OH wait I knew that already...silly me.

ogkevin13
10-20-2006, 02:44 AM
dammm i didnt think you guys where so dramatic i didnt mean to hurt anyones feelings

RB's Titan
10-20-2006, 12:15 PM
dammm i didnt think you guys where so dramatic i didnt mean to hurt anyones feelings

Oh no sir no feelings hurt here...It's a good kill you had crap a kill is kill. Just pointing out the obvious mods issues. Things are changing though give it year or two more and I hope to have a street ponder in Titan form that I can race head to head run what you brung.

cheers.

XLR8NSS
10-20-2006, 03:14 PM
I wonder if STS would make a turbo kit for you Titan guys. The only thing would be fuel control I guess.

SoBeGraphics
10-20-2006, 03:41 PM
If you cannot tune it what is the use? Until someone makes a programmer not many companies will make parts for the T. You need to be able to control timing, A/f, shift point etc.

XLR8NSS
10-20-2006, 03:50 PM
Yeah, I know. :(

They made a kit for the Dodge trucks when there was no tuning options. They recommend a piggyback system for them, thought maybe it could work for you guys also.

MorepowerTY
10-22-2006, 07:43 PM
Not a bad kill. I think it would have been a better race if the SS had the same mods.

sc186
10-22-2006, 10:22 PM
The SS already has a 40 HP advantage and AWD over the Titan.

Some of you people have no love.

RB's Titan
10-28-2006, 12:54 AM
Who needs love? I can tell ya who....this poor SRT10 Quad Cab owner. nothing like knowing how to drive your ride.

A kill is a kill...
http://media.putfile.com/Titan-Crew-vs-SRT10-Quad-Sealy-Texas-oct27th

Toomnymods
10-28-2006, 02:44 AM
LOL RB love the moderator.. Did you dance after getting outta your truck?? i probably wouldve expecially since he talked smack on your truck right before you launched..

markislive78
11-08-2006, 01:29 PM
Your SS will have a tough time with my truck if you have only bolt on's! Thats all I have!

MorepowerTY
11-08-2006, 07:40 PM
Sounds like someone wants to play.? I'm getting my pacesetters in a few weeks, so my mods will be almost like yours, except for the Trutrac. Where do you live? I'll come and play.

markislive78
11-08-2006, 08:04 PM
I'm a good ways...i'm in Louisiana. Our HP is similar. I have about 40 more lbs of Tq than you do and a 5 speed. I figure you are showing estimated flwheel Hp numbers? You have a little more gear tha I do. I'm probably a low 14 second truck right now if i can hook her up! How is that limited slip on the SS 2wd? It would be a good race!

MorepowerTY
11-09-2006, 07:26 PM
Limited slip is ok I guess, but in my option, the SS should have 4:10 2wd. It launch's hard. Especially after my tune. How did you get your dyno numbers with just those mods? Don't the Titans only have 305 flywheel hp? If your rwhp is 315, then thats about an 80 hp increase. Most guys with your mods are running low 15's with a QC. My truck runs a 14.9 stock with 20's on it. I wish they would have come with 17' or 18's, then we'd be low 14's stock. I haven't been at the track yet with my new tune and other mods.

markislive78
11-09-2006, 08:07 PM
Oh so you have 3.73 and not 4.10 ...I figured you had 4.10. Well Nissan must have really underated this 5.6. With intake and exhaust only she dyno'ed 280/331 at the rear wheels stock they dyno 256-260hp/310TQ that thats a little more than a stock HEMI and way more TQ and they are rated at 345hp to the flywheel. I would have to guess the Titan is really 320hp/400TQ at the flywheel either that or our tranny is really efficent. I have 20's on my truck all of the time I have not made it to the track since my tune. With G-tec i'm doing 0-60's avg of 5.9 and 14.5's in the 1/4 thats with a full tank of gas tools, tailgate, spare, subwoofer box and ect.... I just put the 17's on to make a cool burn out video. I just need practice launching after the tune. If I can get a good WOT launch with out the extra weight I see 14.2 with my current config. I just ordered some PRG traction bars and I will change from a 3.73 rear to a 4.10. My 450lbs of TQ is what makes my truck go...TQ gets these big boats moving!

How much do traction bars help? Have any luck with them?

Did you ever have your SS dynoed?

Here is a dyno after Headers and the tune vs only intake and exhaust. I gained 40rwHP and 50rwTq in some parts of the powerband! Dyno was with 20's and heavy 295/50 rubber!
http://bellsouthpwp.net/m/a/markislive/dyno_a.jpg
http://bellsouthpwp.net/m/a/markislive/dyno_b.jpg

MorepowerTY
11-09-2006, 08:43 PM
Yeah, only a freak'n 3:73. I talk to one of the people at GM, and asked them why, he said because of driviblity. This is how we get such good gas milage on the freeway I guess. Take the Hemi for example: They put the 3:92 axle to make up the diff. for the 20's, why can't GM do this. They have 4:10 ratio's, but only for HD's or AWD. The whole market these days are about fuel economy. I think the Titans are unrated too. They have to have more hp than they say they do, but you guys do have deeper gears in the tranny. I haven't had my truck dyno'd yet, but my buddy has, and it was bone stock with 272 rwhp and 304 rwtq. I think you guys have more tq because of your trannys.

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