Will the Radix take a 35 or 50 wet shot? I have heard issues of fuel puddling. Any other issues? Talked to Scott at Nitrous Direct and he seems to think it would be fine but, I want my truck not to blow up. Did a search, no straight answers, anybody actually running N20 with a Radix?
1slow01Z71
10-11-2005, 06:58 PM
2toneblown did and he was fun pm him about it.
CHarris
10-11-2005, 07:06 PM
Done it and it's good. Don't get crazy though.
jimbob
10-11-2005, 07:13 PM
Will the Radix take a 35 or 50 wet shot? I have heard issues of fuel puddling. Any other issues? Talked to Scott at Nitrous Direct and he seems to think it would be fine but, he wants to make a sale and I want my truck not to blow up. Did a search, no straight answers, anybody actually running N20 with a Radix?
Why ask this question twice.....Cory already answered it for ya! Unless a H2 racer isn't good enough for you...
Don't need sales bad enough to have people blowing up their stuff, we actually turn people down when we feel they are doing something that will put their vehicle in real jeapordy. We like long time repeat customers. You're struck will really enjoy a 50/75 shot
1SlowHoe
10-11-2005, 07:51 PM
Why ask this question twice.....Cory already answered it for ya! Unless a H2 racer isn't good enough for you...
http://www.performancetrucks.net/forums/showthread.php?t=350271
My other post was aking why the limit on shot size. I got good answers from Scott at Nitrous Direct today about that. However, after I did another search today I read about people being concerned with fuel puddling inside the Radix which could lead to the Radix shooting through my hood :eek2: I know CHarris has done it a few times and said it worked well. I was just wondering if more are doing it and any problems they may have encountered. After speaking to Scott, a 35 to 50 shot sounds like all I would be safe shooting and probably all I would need.I just like to be thorough in my research. I can afford the 500-600 for the N20 kit but not $$$ for another engine.
Scott--I wasn't suggesting you would sell me something just to make a sale and disregard my engine. Sorry if it came off like that. I just look for other opinions besides the person/business that gets paid. I do this with anything I buy. :chug:
If I blew up the engine and had to buy a 408 to replace it, the wife would get mad :bang: So it seems as if everyone is in agreement that a small shot is safe and will be fun :drive: No special tuning required?
Gmc²
10-11-2005, 08:51 PM
HEY I GOT A ?? can you spray a dry shot through a radix?
thats what i want to do a dry 50 through my side mount
CHarris
10-11-2005, 09:46 PM
HEY I GOT A ?? can you spray a dry shot through a radix?
thats what i want to do a dry 50 through my side mount
How do you intend to fuel it? What are your injectors running at now 80%?100%? 115%? If you are going to rely on the MAF you would want to know that you had enough injector and MAF left to cover it. If your maf is maxed already but the injectors are okay then you will have trial and error to make it work.
That's why I went wet after thinking it over for a while.
1SlowHoe
10-11-2005, 09:49 PM
I was told wet was safer as well. Don't really remember why but I gave up on a dry kit. That's why I asked about puddling. I already have some oil sitting in the bend on the radix. I don't want gas in there as well.
BLOWN 364
10-11-2005, 10:26 PM
I run a 50 dry adding fuel to the tables above 2500rpm to keep the A/F'S on check and run cooler spark plugs for safety.You might have to take some timing out too.I did not want to run a wet system in case of back fire and blow the blower out the hood.That would for sure give the LIGHTNING guys something to :rotflmao: about at the track.
This set up seems to work out good for me.
jimbob
10-12-2005, 12:37 AM
My other post was aking why the limit on shot size. I got good answers from Scoot at Nitrous Direct today about that. However, after I did another search today I read about people being concerned with fuel puddling inside the Radix which could lead to the Radix shooting through my hood :eek2: I know CHarris has done it a few times and said it worked well. I was just wondering if more are doing it and any problems they may have encountered. After speaking to Scott, a 35 to 50 shot sounds like all I would be safe shooting and probably all I would need.I just like to be thorough in my research. I can afford the 500-600 for the N20 kit but not $$$ for another engine.
I'm sure there is going to be some fuel seperation...there is always some in any manifold (wet system non-direct port), however as long as your on the rich side say, 12 to 1 AFR or richer, a small shot on N2O into a cyl without extra fuel (say lack of fuel for some reason, blower with bad fuel distribution as an example) will probably live, if you don't go to lean. It's this unknown as to how much seperation there really is that keeps people to small (safer) shots, just in case the fuel some how doesn't get there. Plus, to much cyl pressure could spell bad things to head gaskets. I would not worry to much on boost vs N2O. I believe Parish's old 6 Liter combo was 14 to 16 LBs of boost (turbo)with a 75 shot, so the block and pistons can handle some power.
1SlowHoe
10-12-2005, 08:31 AM
Hmmm. The more I read, the more I think I should do it.
Gmc²
10-12-2005, 12:38 PM
i have 30# inj now but i would probly jump to 40 if i sprayed, before i spray it i would take the truck to allen and have him tune it up.
but a dry 50 through the non intercooled sidemount, shit w the cooling effect and the added n2o effect HEHE no explanation needed.
how much rwhp gain would i see from a 50 shot?
wkdivr
10-12-2005, 01:17 PM
Hmmm. The more I read, the more I think I should do it.
Don't forget, most of these ideas for meth, or nitrous on the blowers are only for track use, where you can monitor everything closly. You start playing with this stuff on the street, and sooner, or later, you're gonna run out of meth or whatever at the worst time! I think....the best thing to have (and I'm gonna have one) is a race tune, and a street tune. That way, you can kind have the best of both worlds.
CHarris
10-12-2005, 02:07 PM
You start playing with this stuff on the street, and sooner, or later, you're gonna run out of meth or whatever at the worst time! I think....the best thing to have (and I'm gonna have one) is a race tune, and a street tune. That way, you can kind have the best of both worlds.
This is exactly why a wet shot is perfect... If you run out of N2O you end up going really rich because the fuel keeps pumping. The opposite situation- running out fuel on the wetshot for some reason (maybe a relay goes bad or the fuel solenoid) you end up safe because it's only a 50 shot and if you're running in the 11's for AFR you have enough excess fuel to get you by.
1SlowHoe
10-12-2005, 03:05 PM
I'm gonna do it. 25 then a 35 then a 50 if it feels right. Wet shot. I'll post up when I get some numbers. Oh yea, do I need colder plugs? What brand?
CHarris
10-12-2005, 03:48 PM
I'm gonna do it. 25 then a 35 then a 50 if it feels right. Wet shot. I'll post up when I get some numbers. Oh yea, do I need colder plugs? What brand?
I was already running TR-6's. Still am.
1SlowHoe
10-18-2005, 09:25 AM
I called 2 auto places (National Chains) and they didn't know anything about colder plugs etc... I think they were both 16 years old and new to the job. Kept trying to sell me stock plugs the computer told them. Anybody know the part # for the tr-6 or whatever plug is a step colder?
dewmanshu
10-18-2005, 11:10 AM
I called 2 auto places (National Chains) and they didn't know anything about colder plugs etc... I think they were both 16 years old and new to the job. Kept trying to sell me stock plugs the computer told them. Anybody know the part # for the tr-6 or whatever plug is a step colder?
NGK-4177 (TR6) don't pay more than $2.50 each. T Byrne Motorsports sells them for 2.29/e.
Mr. Sandog
10-18-2005, 11:15 AM
P/N 50-TR6 from Thunder Racing here. (http://thunderracing.com/catalog/?action=categories&pcid=102) Magnuson says stock plugs, but my truck ran better after getting the TR6's installed.
dewmanshu
10-18-2005, 11:47 AM
P/N 50-TR6 from Thunder Racing here. (http://thunderracing.com/catalog/?action=categories&pcid=102) Magnuson says stock plugs, but my truck ran better after getting the TR6's installed.
So did mine.
1SlowHoe
10-18-2005, 04:40 PM
Had to go to 2 different CarQuests to get 8 of them. They each had 4 in stock :bs: Anyway, I will put them in Saturday.
CHarris
10-18-2005, 10:46 PM
Had to go to 2 different CarQuests to get 8 of them. They each had 4 in stock :bs: Anyway, I will put them in Saturday.
It's good that you are doing it. I forget now exactly when I changed mine... I think it was the 2.9 pulley.... but the platinum wasn't looking so good.
1SlowHoe
10-18-2005, 10:51 PM
I was told doing it now was a good idea but almost required if I spray N2O. Figured I do it now. Now, If I could just get this deadbeat that I paid for the Fuel Pump Voltage Booster to actually ship it, I'd be in business. :jest: J/K Cory
CHarris
10-19-2005, 12:59 AM
:secret2:
urr2slo
10-19-2005, 01:38 AM
I'm Running A 100 Hp Shot Wet Through My Radix With No Problems. I Am Using A Progressive Controller That Starts At 35 Hp And Ramps Up To 100 Hp In 1.6 Seconds. I Also Installed A Set Of The Denso Iridium Plugs 2 Heat Setting Colder And I Only Run 100 Octane Race Gas When I'm Squeezing. No Problems So Far.
1SlowHoe
10-19-2005, 07:26 AM
I'm Running A 100 Hp Shot Wet Through My Radix With No Problems. I Am Using A Progressive Controller That Starts At 35 Hp And Ramps Up To 100 Hp In 1.6 Seconds. I Also Installed A Set Of The Denso Iridium Plugs 2 Heat Setting Colder And I Only Run 100 Octane Race Gas When I'm Squeezing. No Problems So Far.
What car/Truck are you running the 100 shot/Radix on? Does it hit like you got rear ended by a school bus?