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LOL a dude hit a curb doing 10mph and his axle snaped another one hit a car and another one uhmm just fell off dodge owners should get theirs cheked IMO are the axle's really that weak? hit a car and a curb i can understand but just fall out? uhmmm imagine trailering and your axle just snaps i would be worried. look at this whats that in the middle? idk but it looks cheap http://www.dodgetalk.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=52627&stc=1

Originally Posted by eltupac
Damn, I thought we were driving american tough trucks, not hyundai excels. :jest:

acctually he hit a curb doing 5mph... dont hit a curb doing 5mph-10mph it might damage your axle...

There's been a select few cases of this happening. In a most of cases damage is done long before the curb hit, the hit is just the final nail in the coffin. It seems to be a problem with trucks and the stock 20" rims, they weigh a ton.

This actually happened to wifey's 98 Ram Sport extcbsb 1500 2X4, The axle flange just popped off... never been hit and the truck had 16's on it. Being a Machinist I am familiar with metal fatigue and failure and it only took a quick look to tell that it was a defect from the factory. It was a crack in the axle and was broken for a long time and only a small portion of the axle was holding on and just eventually cracked til it fell off.
Now the sad part is that Dodge NEVER took any responsibility and conned her into claiming it on her insurance! AND the Insurance PAID... never looked at nothing.. Bottom line: her Insurance went up ( mind you when the flange broke off her truck just sat down on the wheel and bent some sheet metal and such) so the next accident she had cost her even more.
Now for her getting the Insurance to pay was the quick way out as fighting Dodge over the incident was going to take a long time, this is NOT an isolated incident as I have heard of quite a few more non-impact type axle breakages. People need to take a stand on this to get Dodge to accept responsibilty on this....

TJ

Pretty good % of failures to the number of forum members reporting failures.One ram owner got 40K from DC when his broke a second time.I would be afraid to put my family in a Dodge.

Thats why i bought a chevy :nod: No axle Snaping here

Uh, guys,

I am thinking those rear ends are made by Dana..... think you may be surprised where all you will find rears made by that company..

TJ

Yes, by different specs

Thats why i bought a chevy :nod: No axle Snaping here

lol :werd:

Dana made those slapping GM pistons as well................LMAO!!!

They all have problems.............not just dodge.

Slapping piston isnt going to kill ur ass while cruising down the highway:judge:

:judge: Any normal hemi tick is far worse than any GM piston slap that goes away after 5 min. worst case.Dodge boys always say " ya every make has problems" yes but not near as many as Dodges do.especialy engines!

My hemi does NOT tick.

my vortec doesn't either, last I checked GM was progressing, Dodge seems to be backstepping :rolleyes:

Backstepping??????? Not being rude, but how do you figure this?

5.7 hemi 345 HP

6.1 HEMI 425 HP

6.4 HEMI 500+ HP

SRT dept growing fast

New performance mods are now working, finally after 3 years of trying to hack the computer, its now working!

IMO, it looks like they are stepping up!

Dodge is starting to wake up and their stuff is getting nicer and nicer maybe my next new vehicle will be a Dodge we will see. First I have heard of the 6.4 HEMI details please:D

That is bs that DC wouldn't step up to the plate when it is a design defect. Wait until someone dies, then they'll be in hot water. Ford learned that one the hard way, at least they bothered to recall their trucks with problems. At the very least the car maker, be it DC, GM or Ford, should take action to prevent an impending lawsuit, never mind its the right thing to do

The hemi tick is almost in every truck out there, Hemi engines will grow and grow but it will never be a VORTEC or an ls based engine whats the most famous engines out there they are the ls engines. Those engines could have a little of advantage on the chevy engines but with the drivetrain you guys have those numbers shur as hell dont get to the ground.

i hit a curb at probably 15 mph and busted my axle!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! check it out in the chevy drivetrain section. So it's not just dodge.....

i sympathize now.

and as for tick, my 5.3 ticks really bad, and doesn't go away.... so i wouldn't go saying the ls tick dissapates, it doesn't. my brother ls2 in his 2002 camaro rattles up a storm.

i think somethings up with the metal around here lately..........

Somewhere along the line you missed that the Dodges were not slamming into curbs and the axles were snapping off.Axles snapping on new low mile trucks that were not loaded with weight and going straight down the road and breaking for no reason. Sure any axle will break when you slam into a curb.

So, how many Dodge axles have broke from just driving down the road? Is it a 2 wheel drive or 4 wheel drive? Do they off road? How much power are the putting down? How hard do they drive it? Do they race? Had they hit anything earlier? Had someone test drove the truck before they bought it and beat on it? Had they let a relative borrow it that hit something and didn't tell them? You guys are the experts...

I'm not saying I haven't read of a couple breaking but I'm not rushing to have mine checked out. I don't know what they did to it, how it was driven, if anything happened to it before they bought it. And, I'm not so closed minded to think only one brand has problems.

As for the hemi tick- change the oil weight or take your aftermarket air intake off and put your stock back on if it bothers you... it'll go away.

So, how many Dodge axles have broke from just driving down the road? Is it a 2 wheel drive or 4 wheel drive? Do they off road? How much power are the putting down? How hard do they drive it? Do they race? Had they hit anything earlier? Had someone test drove the truck before they bought it and beat on it? Had they let a relative borrow it that hit something and didn't tell them? You guys are the experts...

I'm not saying I haven't read of a couple breaking but I'm not rushing to have mine checked out. I don't know what they did to it, how it was driven, if anything happened to it before they bought it. And, I'm not so closed minded to think only one brand has problems.

As for the hemi tick- change the oil weight or take your aftermarket air intake off and put your stock back on if it bothers you... it'll go away.


What is your idea of a low percentage?How many hemi owners on the DTW site? say 200.There have been roughly 10-12 reports on that site of axles snapping.Happend to one guy 2 times.First time his wife was driving slow and took out the side on the bed. The next time he was driving and it wiped out the whole side. Dodge wrote him a fat check and bought his truck back.Someone will die,its a matter of time.

One more question,would you say DC has a high or low hemi engine failure rate?New un-modded trucks with less than 36K miles?

I've been on DTW for a while and I don't recall that many occurances. I'm going to go search (not long, the search feature sucks over there) to see what I can find. But to say DTW shows a good percentage of dodge truck owners... I would say that DTW does NOT show a good percentage of dodge truck owners. Heck there are over 300 GSM kits on hemis in the US and maybe 3 of them are on DTW. I read a couple of the posts on the axles. I know the one you are taking about it happening to twice- he had nitrous on that truck I believe. I'm not saying it hasn't happened, but I am saying is it isn't an everyday, every week or every month occurance. You don't see posts about broken axles everytime you check active topics unless its you guys over there keeping it on the front page beating that dead horse. All I'm saying is it is not a "problem" and we (you, me, or anyone besides the owner) REALLY don't know what happened to the trucks that broke. How they drove it- if they hit anything- etc.
There are dodges putting down close to and some over 500rwhp launching on drag radials with the stock axles and not one has snapped. That tell sme whatever has happened has to be somewhat isolated instances.

looking forward to your report

I used the search (what a joke) and came up with 2 definites and 1 someone heard about (I'm not saying that's all) - all were 03's. The one guy in FL and the guy that it happened twice to (sky or something). I'll look for more but it appears to be 03's that it happened to. With the power I'm going to be putting down I'll probably look to swap out my axles when I do the tranny anyway, especially if we can figure out how to get a 727 in it. :)

*cough* there are 43,714 members on DTW, granted at least half of them own something other then a hemi, but that's 2 confirmed in 20,000.

*cough* there are 43,714 members on DTW, granted at least half of them own something other then a hemi, but that's 2 confirmed in 20,000.


From your post you believe that there have been only 2 snapped axle issues?And you also believe there or 20K hemi 1/2 ton truck owners viewing that forum?Is this your belief?

2 reported on that forum. Forsure there are more then 2 out there, but there's also a heck of a lot more hemi's out there then on that site. 20K is a guess, and only a guess, but that hemi forum has more posts in it then the desiel, gen2, gen1, and dakota forums combined. It's an asstimation (pulling it out of my ass) but I am willing to bet my number is a hell of a lot closer then your 200 members. More people drive dodges then you think Gonzo. ;)

OK lets find out,lets have coltsteel do it because he is diplomatic and respected.Colt start a post over there in such an inviting way that people will want to respond and honestly,ask how many broken axles have been reported over the years on this forum.Wait a couple days for a responses to come in and then ask for peoples opinion of how many Hemi truck owners have posted on hemi forum.Now if you give it away that this poll is coming from here then people wont answer honestly.So dont sour it.

To humor you I did a search over there for axle break 3 posts and axle broke 19 posts, in 3-4 different threads. Yah that search engine is a joke there.

Also did the same here, 45 posts on axle break, and 38 on axle broke, with several cross over posts.

I still say these axles aren't going to break unless your doing something stupid like fish tailing into a curb with the 82lb 20's on. Much greater chance of a rear end going or something then the axle snapping.

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I haven't had any problems and my truck has 136000 miles and i beat the hell out of it with jumps and burnout and all sorts of other good stuff

Gonzo, you are like a dog with an old bone with this shit... you are wearing it out.... BUT.. I will add my 2 cents in here as well... My wife had this happen to her in a 98 Ram Sport with the same rear that is in our Hemis. The Axle flange just flat fell off at a very low speed and the truck just squated down on the tire. I pesonally examined the entire truck... Everyone will have to accept my expertise here, I am quite qualified to examine these items and determine the fault... upon examination I determined that the axle had a stress crack from the factory and it took a while to break. The axle was not bent, nor was the wheel bent, or the axle flange. There was no sign of abuse anywhere. An examination of the break revealed that only 1/3 of the diameter of the axle was holding prior to the failure. I am an automotive machinist and I see failure due to fatigue all the time. It is not uncommon for cracks to be left in any casting or forging during the manufacturing process and sometimes it gets by the screening process. ( that is why you always want to sonoflux your cranks and your rods before machining, don't chance it ). I am thinking that Dana makes these rears for our trucks along with a lot of them for ALL makes of trucks. I would be willing to bet there are recorded incidents of this on other makes as well.
Now I can tell you that the 98 Dodge listed above was not abused, raced or neglected.. it had a comptletely stock 360 in it which we all know would require a TON of modifying for it to generate anywhere near the HP to worry about twisting an axle.. Oh yea, there was NO twist on the axle evident either..
Now we all have seen the guy on the side of the road with the axle flange missing and most are probably the result of a bearing failure literally cutting the axle into.... but I have to wonder how many have just cracked off..... and they won't all be Dodges either.

TJ

http://www.allpar.com/model/ram/index.html

Common problems and repairsA number of pickups appear to be having axle failures - we believe around one in ten sold. The basic axle design seems to be sound, but there are problems around components redesigned at the orders of a Chrysler executive who is no longer there. A redesign is expected with the next generation of Ram trucks in 2006 or so; in the meantime, failures appear to be dealt with on a case by case basis. Since this is a known problem, owners who encounter axle failure should press Chrysler for no-cost or subsidized replacement even if they are a reasonable time out of the warranty period. The redesigned axle will apparently not be completely interchangeable with the current version


The one site you guys missed,I am certain had you seen this of course you would have posted it.

that sucks that the axles are breaking if that is really the case. i for one have hit a curb like bump while run from a crazy redneck guy at 90mph and my rearend didnt fall off. sure did scare the :turd: out of me though. and to say that dodges engines arent reliable lets see the chevy 350ci out last the dodge 318ci !!

depends how u drive them and take care of em. My friends 2001 tahoe has like 400,000+ miles and it still runs strong and has had no problems.