hi, for all you duramax fans here are the 2006 stats, its hp get bumped up to 360, and tq to 650. All this info is from a monthly publication gm sends out to dealerships. :drive:

Damn!!! Very impressive!! Now those are real numbers! Wonder what Dodge is going to do now?

also new 6 speed allison

i heard rumors of a 8 cylinder block out of cummins.

http://www.performancetrucks.net/forums/showthread.php?t=345769
:D

i wish i could afford one..

I remember reading a tech article about the Duramax engine in 99, this article was a few years old (written during the testing phase). The engine was putting out 1,000 ft/lbs, the problem they were having was the Allison tranny could not hold up to the torque of the motor. Some of the component changed on the engine was the ECM, fuel injectors, and turbo.

Wow, more power for the ALUMINUM headed diesel... :eyes:
That sure will help reliability....

Wonder what Dodge is going to do now?
Tinker with that computer more. ;)

But rumor has it if Dodge re-ups they are currently working on a 6.7 QSB I-6 fitment for Dodge Ram trucks.

I remember reading a tech article about the Duramax engine in 99, this article was a few years old (written during the testing phase). The engine was putting out 1,000 ft/lbs, the problem they were having was the Allison tranny could not hold up to the torque of the motor. Some of the component changed on the engine was the ECM, fuel injectors, and turbo.

every engine in testing puts down more power than they release it with. until the engine has been out for a few years they won't be releasing it with any more power than it takes to top the other competitors numbers. the allison could be made to handle that power reliably easier than the max could that boost level.

as for the reliability comment on the aluminum heads, i work for a chevy dealer. since i've been here we've had the heads off one duramax and i've been here since before they were released by far. our dealership also sells dodge products. there has been a low failure rate with the noisemaker also, but they have more trans failures in one week than we have in a month.

i'd rather have a silverado of the three, but in every test for the last few years the powerstroke has been the big dog for stock trucks.

I agree Zippy about the Powerstroke, and almost bought one. But I have an 06 Duramax in the driveway because of the head gasket problems with the 6.0 powerstroke. As of today the Duramax is the truck to own, IMHO.

good choice there. the powerstroke has put down some great numbers, especially in stock form, but with many problems to go with it.

the allison 6 speed is also a tap shift. we have one at the dealership.

i heard rumors of a 8 cylinder block out of cummins.

From where?

This passed summer i worked for a company that had a 2005 powerstroke and a 2005 duramax and the duramax was by by far nicer. It would pull circles around the powerstroke. The duramax would also out run the powerstroke in a drag race and was alot nicer riding and more comfortable. Both trucks were 4 door short beds and were 4 wheel drive. We had no problems or breakdowns out of either truck even though we worked the ass off of them.

we finally got our first 360hp duramax last week. gonna drive it this weekend for a test.

From where?
that was awhile ago, a long while ago. now the well documented rumor is that the cummins is done this year. mercedes is moving in with a 1000lbtq motor.

those kind of torque numbers won't be making passenger trucks for quite some time. the ability to build a trans good enough to put a warrenty on and hold that kind of power without having harsh shifts just isn't there yet.

Wow, more power for the ALUMINUM headed diesel... :eyes:
That sure will help reliability....

Bla bla bla. Ever hear of any problems with dmax heads? NO!!!

I'm pickin mine up on wednesday. Test drove it yesterday, that 6 speed is awesome. The new Duramax gets up and runs a hell of a lot better than the previous Duramax's. I cant wait!!!! :judge:

my room mate just got one and his is alot more powerful than his lly it drives 100 x 's better to have 33'' mud dawgs on 16 x 12 inch rims and have a 6 inch lift on the way. for the 35'' procomp xterrains in the closet.

i heard rumors of a 8 cylinder block out of cummins.
Never gonna happen, Cummins has never made a 8 cylinder and never will.. They do have programming however for the 07 Cummins that will make 385 hp and 700 lb/ft of torque on the new CR engine. The 8.0 CR engine will boast almost 460 hp and near 900 lb/ft of torque for medium duties..

Never gonna happen, Cummins has never made a 8 cylinder and never will.. They do have programming however for the 07 Cummins that will make 385 hp and 700 lb/ft of torque on the new CR engine. The 8.0 CR engine will boast almost 460 hp and near 900 lb/ft of torque for medium duties..

Hey,

Just found this site, and love it. ( Heard about it over at The DieselPlace. )

Anyway, Cummapart did make a V8, the V8 904, which was used in tractors, ( Versatile, Case,. etc ) In the 4wd tractors.

Also, don't forget the Ford 6.0L with those nasty 2 piece Aluminum & Cast iron cylinder heads.

Take care,

Will

Never gonna happen, Cummins has never made a 8 cylinder and never will.. They do have programming however for the 07 Cummins that will make 385 hp and 700 lb/ft of torque on the new CR engine. The 8.0 CR engine will boast almost 460 hp and near 900 lb/ft of torque for medium duties..


i agree, cummins only knows one engine, inline 6.

Bla bla bla. Ever hear of any problems with dmax heads? NO!!!
Actually yeah, several cracked heads...

You guys all talk power comparison. I think Ford is way a head of the game.
Ford delayed their new body style, interior change, and power package on the 3/4 & 1 ton trucks to place their selves back on the top of the power pedestal. Ford will supossedly wait until GM & Dodge brings their "guns" to table first, then top both of them.
I see everyone compares the engines, but never the entire truck.
Ford has THE toughest frame, suspension, and body structure of the big three.
Even the gauge of the body steel is thicker than the others. I want to say GM's steel is the thinnest of the three.
GM has been way behind in this desiel war for a long time. It's going to be hard for them to come back and ever outsell Dodge or Ford.
GM needs to change their styling. THEY NEED a tougher looking 3/4 & 1 ton truck. They also need to strengthen their frame and use thicker or stronger body steel. The interior needs to be changed out as well.
Dodge looks good, frame & body strength is better than GM's but doesn't top Fords, interior is up-to-date. I think Dodge may loose a lot of customers if Cummins is taken away for a Mercedez desiel. That's loosing it's American roots.
Ford needs to get rid of the old out dated interior already. Bump up the power a bit more, give better fuel miliage, and that's it.
Guess we will see what will happen in the next two years.

Jim

Actually yeah, several cracked heads...

Yeah maybe one here and there but certainly it's not a big issue, and it's not to be worried about. It's VERY uncommon.

Actually yeah, several cracked heads...


i work for a chevy dealer and have long before the max came out. i've never seen a problem with cracking on one yet and to date we've only done one set of head gaskets. this isn't bad considering trucks are our main sales.

You guys all talk power comparison. I think Ford is way a head of the game.
Ford delayed their new body style, interior change, and power package on the 3/4 & 1 ton trucks to place their selves back on the top of the power pedestal. Ford will supossedly wait until GM & Dodge brings their "guns" to table first, then top both of them.
I see everyone compares the engines, but never the entire truck.
Ford has THE toughest frame, suspension, and body structure of the big three.
Even the gauge of the body steel is thicker than the others. I want to say GM's steel is the thinnest of the three.
GM has been way behind in this desiel war for a long time. It's going to be hard for them to come back and ever outsell Dodge or Ford.
GM needs to change their styling. THEY NEED a tougher looking 3/4 & 1 ton truck. They also need to strengthen their frame and use thicker or stronger body steel. The interior needs to be changed out as well.
Dodge looks good, frame & body strength is better than GM's but doesn't top Fords, interior is up-to-date. I think Dodge may loose a lot of customers if Cummins is taken away for a Mercedez desiel. That's loosing it's American roots.
Ford needs to get rid of the old out dated interior already. Bump up the power a bit more, give better fuel miliage, and that's it.
Guess we will see what will happen in the next two years.

Jim


The Benz diesel has logged millions upon millions of miles in commericial applications. Freightliner is one of the bestselling haul trucks on the road today. I see no reason the introduction of the Mercedes diesel will change things at all. Not that I am ragging on Cummins, their engines are more than great. But sometimes things change for the better and not so much for the worse...You never know what to expect. BTW- no one cares where their diesel engine comes from as long as it is somewhat affordable, kicks everything's ass, lasts forever (or at least until you trade it off), and gets good fuel economy while doing it.

Good call on most everything else. I drive a HD but love Ford.

I'll let you know, I work for Freightliner, and I absolutely hate the MBE engines.. The way they hide all the accessories behind the frame with those engines.. And to make things worse- they plan to replace the Detroit Series 600 Engines with the MBE4000 engine..

i heard that powerstroke is gone ford gets cummins and dodge gets catepillar...interesting

Dodge is actually going to get a 5 cylinder MBE engine.. Pretty sad for the light duty diesel industry..