No it wasn't in the Z71. Like that would ever happen :p

I was on my way home from work on the stretch of road I usually see the silver SRT10. Instead I see a clean blue RCSB Hemi truck merging onto the freeway in front of me. I pull up next to him and slow down to give him aq thumbs up for a clean truck and he acknowledges the gesture and his buddy in the passenger seat gives me the thumbs up as well. Then the guy floors it as they both wave goodbye to me.... :bang:

He imediately jumps a truck length on my and while my truck downshifts into 3rd (I was going to fast for a good 2nd gear drop) he continues to pull away. I finally start to really accelerate but by the time we stabilize he already have 2.5 truck lengths on me and we stay that way for a few seconds, him no longer leaving me but I'm no longer gaining so I lift and he does the same but not before he turns on his hazards... :cry:

I laugh knowing this is a bone stock 4.8L vs his :hail: HEMI and how lucky he was I wasn't in the Z71 or if my newly built motor was in this truck. I mock the lil "bow down" ....> :hail: smiley while he flashes his hazard and you can see them laughing along. I pull back up next time them and gave him another thumbs up while he leans back and takes a hit of a joint he was smoking *rolls eyes* but his passanger is saying "right on" and giving me the thumbs up. I used gestures to describe my truck as a 4.8L but I'm not sure if he understood and I noticed an impatient little blonde chick behind me and wanting to pass so I pull ahead and let her go by. I pulled off at the next exit to see if he wanted to try it from something less than 75mph but they kept going straight.

Anyway, point to the story is those things are pretty damned quick and knowing I trap 90-91mph at the track you stockish guys better be careful if you run into a RCSB and just pray they don't have a Superchips programer and the usual bolt-ons. LOL

lol... they were higher than a cloud and still won. Lol jk, doesnt take much skill to floor an automatic truck from a roll on the interstate.

I have raced plenty in my little 4.8 with the mods in my sig. I find that I can beat them from a stop pretty easliy and they tend to keep up with me from a 35 roll till about 89mph (2-3 shift) and than from there on i put like 2 and 3 lengths on the rcsb's. But def a stock 4.8 would have a rough time, yes.

yeah if you`re not dropping down into first or second(and at just the right speed) you arent going anywhere in a 4.8... at least thats the case with mine.

mine not too bad now w/ mods i have minus the nitrous and w/ the nitrous it doesn't matter really what gear you catch it's gone

Thats pretty funny. It will be even funnier if you see them again once your new setup is done. My truck will be going into the shop to have my new setup put in as soon as I close the deal on the new car (Im telling my fiance its hers...LOL :jest: ) an 05 CTS-V. The truck is getting a 402, built 4L80, T trim, and possibly nitrous at that time or at least a few weeks later. There will be a minimum of 400hp required to pull into my driveway much less the garage :jest:

If I was modded it would have been a much better race and I'm sure I would have started pulling on him eventually but no biggie. I just thought it funny that he was so cocky right off the bat. I would have been the ultimate cool video if my truck was finished and after he waved bye bye I go blowing by him smoking the tires at 80mph. The look on their faces would have been priceless. Hell even just drilling him a new one in the Z71 would have been great. :)

Tahoe, get that sucker done! I'm pullin for ya. I can't wait to see videos of your tank rippin down the 1/4mile. I ave tons of trucks, I need some fast SUVs to show my customers. ;)

I play all these videos you guys post up at my work. Customers are always stoppping to watch them and remarking how how they didn't know trucks could be that fast. :drive:

Not bad for a 4.8L at all. They have a dropped RCSB Hemi on 20s riding around here every saturday night acting like hes got something. Well im hopefully going find out what this hemi is all about :devil:

mine not too bad now w/ mods i have minus the nitrous and w/ the nitrous it doesn't matter really what gear you catch it's gone

:stupid:

A 5.7 all powerful HEMI should beat a 4.8. The HEMI is an entire Honda motor bigger and rated at 70hp more. Its kinda sad that stock for stock a HEMI (The most powerful V8 Dodge has) is considered an 'interesting' race for a 4.8 (The smallest least powerful V8 GM has)

A stock 6.0 swapped into a RCSB 1/2 ton would make a stock RCSB HEMI look silly. I dont know why the Dodge boys tend to think that the HEMI (Which has NOTHING to do with the 426 HEMI and is closer related in architecture to a Honda motor then the 426) is the end all of V8's.

LMAO!!

Tell us how you really feel bro! :jest:

A 5.7 all powerful HEMI should beat a 4.8. The HEMI is an entire Honda motor bigger and rated at 70hp more. Its kinda sad that stock for stock a HEMI (The most powerful V8 Dodge has) is considered an 'interesting' race for a 4.8 (The smallest least powerful V8 GM has)

A stock 6.0 swapped into a RCSB 1/2 ton would make a stock RCSB HEMI look silly. I dont know why the Dodge boys tend to think that the HEMI (Which has NOTHING to do with the 426 HEMI and is closer related in architecture to a Honda motor then the 426) is the end all of V8's.


Well said..................

I LOVE making them look stupid, especially when I tell them they lost to a V6, you can imagine the look on there face. I tried to get HemiKLR as my plates, but it was denied, i must have gotten a mopar fan that did my review.

A 5.7 all powerful HEMI should beat a 4.8. The HEMI is an entire Honda motor bigger and rated at 70hp more. Its kinda sad that stock for stock a HEMI (The most powerful V8 Dodge has) is considered an 'interesting' race for a 4.8 (The smallest least powerful V8 GM has)

A stock 6.0 swapped into a RCSB 1/2 ton would make a stock RCSB HEMI look silly. I dont know why the Dodge boys tend to think that the HEMI (Which has NOTHING to do with the 426 HEMI and is closer related in architecture to a Honda motor then the 426) is the end all of V8's.

Actually, GM makes a 4.0 variation of the Northstar. So techniclly, the 4.0 or 4.6 is smaller with better numbers. I'm not sure if the 4.0 is still in production but I have on in my garage for my datsun project.

well i tell ya somthing.I have ran against a few hemi rcsb truck an have manged to pull them till 90+.So i dunno if i have a freak of a 4.8 or they weren't tryin. but regardless i am glad to think that the great hemi has a hard time with the lil 4.8.but it is nice to know that he was good about it wit the thumbs up

Dodge did a great job marketing those trucks, they've got all those guys thinking they have the fastest trucks on the planet.

I would be LMAO if i only got beat by a few truck lengths by the all-mighty hemi in my slow ass truck

I trip out reading yalls' posts, the HEMI is a good motor, and the aftermarket is cranking some good stuff out for them now, its not exactly tweaked to perfection yet, but its coming. Unlike GM, you can to wal-mart buy anything almost performance oriented for GM, readily accessible, use to own them, so I know. But you have to agree, the dodge trucks have came a LONG way since the ealry 90s, and with the introduction of the 5.7 hemi they have some sharp trucks. Then the introduction of the SRT lineup, chevy has nothing at all to compete with it, stock for stock, purchased off the showroom floor.

2004 Dodge Ram RCSB running 2 tenths faster in the 1/4 mile than the 5.3 Silverado RCSB, info from Truckin Magazine.

2004 Dodge Ram SRT 10, fastest pickup truck ever produced.

Dodge Viper, GM has no match for it at all...........

SRT 4 Neon, one of the fastest sport compacts on the road, 13.8 1/4 mile times stock

SRT 6 Crossfire- 400 HP in a 6 banger, ultra light weight car

Magnum R/T HEMI.........13.9 sec 1/4 mile

300 "C" with hemi, 13.8 at a 101 mph bone stock!

SRT 300, last report was a 12.8 in the 1/4 mile bone stock

Charger R/T with HEMI 13.7 100 MPH in the 1/4 mile

AND ALL of the larger Dodge grouped vehicles being RWD

What does Chevy/GM offer for competiton???

The 2005 vette----which stole all the viper looks

the GTO-oversized CAVALIER and butt ugly, even the 2005 models which GM thought the extra 50 HP would generate some more sales, there is still 2004 models that are brand new and unsold all over NC/VA.

the CTS-V CADDY-probably the best bang for the buck car GM offers, other than the vette.

Monte Carlo SS, a supercharged 6 banger that runs 17s in the 1/4

Cobalt SS, another charged DUD!

The SSR, GM designer use to work for DC designed this after his work on the PT cruiser, another DUD from GM!

SS Silverado, a big AWD sport truck, good luck on the 2 WD model!!!

Why is some of you guys/gals have to criticize DC products so bad, you need to take a look at the GM products. The design crew they have now better get unemployed before they break GM and cause enough layoffs to ruin the world. GM has some nice stuff on the road as well and a few new upcoming rides that I hope will put them back in good standings, its in every news article you pick up that GM is heading down and down every day. Its sad the only true sports car that CHEVY has to offer is the vette, I wonder if they see the avg price of a vette being close to $50,000 will make them rethink a new camaro, firebird, T/A or something other than the GTO, that was a big let down. I have nothing against GM at all, we have several here in my family and I have owned them myself, just figured you guys needed some reassurance on the new dodge products currently already on the road.

Still a Dodge :punch:

I dont like them, just my personal feelings.....I would take a Ford over a Dodge any day.

I was waiting for you or Hemi777 to pop in :)

I wanted to post this on DodgeTruckWorld but I can't log in for some reason. I thought the guys would get a kick out of the post. I got beat fair and square so I'm not complaining. I was outgunned for sure but I couldn't pass up the chance to see by how much. Plus it makes for a better video when I come back with all the new parts on the truck instead of the shop floor. LOL

You know me though, I don't hate so I assume you meant my friend GoldenLeather. :)

Fatal, you should know I definetly don't hate man, just messing around with you....LOL, like I said GM has been here in the family to long to discredit.

Its not so much dodge products as the idiots that drive them. I cant tell you how many HEMI guys have told me about a chip they got and how they now have over 400hp.
The HEMI trucks are simply notorious for having idiots driving them that think they are fast. I had some retard revving next to me yesterday when my girl and I were in the CTS-V.
The main points here are that other than the SRT-10, stock trucks are not fast. Dont be a dipshit and think that they are (not you personally ;) ).

Its not so much dodge products as the idiots that drive them. I cant tell you how many HEMI guys have told me about a chip they got and how they now have over 400hp.
The HEMI trucks are simply notorious for having idiots driving them that think they are fast. I had some retard revving next to me yesterday when my girl and I were in the CTS-V.
The main points here are that other than the SRT-10, stock trucks are not fast. Dont be a dipshit and think that they are.
TOOO true green, stock I only did a 15.1 at like 87, with the heads and exhaust I have it down to a measly 14.6 at 91, all street trim, seats, 20 inchers and all. I think fatal knows what I really want, but there is just tooooooooooooo many issues with them currently, either one as a matter of fact...LMAO

What I can't get over is how well the Hemi trucks trap compared to MPH. I always see a mid 14 coupled with a 90-91mph run which is outstanding IMO... I mean here I am trapping 90-91mph but I can only pull off a 15.29 at best. :bang: Even in the 4x4 I was running 97mph but only ET'ing 14.29.

I hear ya RumbleBee. Once those gutter suckers get sorted out you guys will be in heaven... Or you'll be paying for lots of nitrous refills. Hahaha

Its not so much dodge products as the idiots that drive them. I cant tell you how many HEMI guys have told me about a chip they got and how they now have over 400hp.
The HEMI trucks are simply notorious for having idiots driving them that think they are fast. I had some retard revving next to me yesterday when my girl and I were in the CTS-V.
The main points here are that other than the SRT-10, stock trucks are not fast. Dont be a dipshit and think that they are (not you personally ;) ).
So true. The Dodge boys tend to have the 'Ricer' mentality.

A intake and an exhausts do not make a truck pro-street.

Nah, pro street would be my turboed daytona shelby Z. Ported/polished head, +40 injectors running an extra injector in the TB, walboro 255 pump, mopar cam, ALOT of boost from that garrett, 3 inch straight exhaust, and a few other tricks from forward motion. Runs 11.5 at 117 in the 1/4 mile, all from a 4 banger..............but she is still suffering from a fire due to a recalibrated computer that went hay wire, but is about finished.

The other pro street I have is a C/S Daytona VNT 4 banger, hope to get into the 9-10 sec 1/4 mile category with Boost, NOS and a few other tricks. Its fun to take these CHEAP little 4 bangers to the track and kill Musatngs, Lightnings, ZO6's, T/As, SRT's and alot more. I quit messing with the V-8 cars, its fun to build a 4 cylinder that pushes over 500 crank HP. Shelby is flame red and the VNT is black, I get all over alot of NC with these cars, even into Va, so if you see one its probably me.

What I can't get over is how well the Hemi trucks trap compared to MPH. I always see a mid 14 coupled with a 90-91mph run which is outstanding IMO... I mean here I am trapping 90-91mph but I can only pull off a 15.29 at best. :bang: Even in the 4x4 I was running 97mph but only ET'ing 14.29.



The low trap speeds could be due to the barn door-like aerodynmics the rams have, and the fact that they might not make the power up top. I doubt its because they're getting great traction, because at the end of the day its still a truck.

What I can't get over is how well the Hemi trucks trap compared to MPH. I always see a mid 14 coupled with a 90-91mph run which is outstanding IMO... I mean here I am trapping 90-91mph but I can only pull off a 15.29 at best. :bang: Even in the 4x4 I was running 97mph but only ET'ing 14.29.

I hear ya RumbleBee. Once those gutter suckers get sorted out you guys will be in heaven... Or you'll be paying for lots of nitrous refills. Hahaha


NOS refills, can you buy it in bulk and save.....LMAO, yeah I'd like this 500 lb. bottle filled sir!!!!!!!!!

for some reason i guess my truck is an oddball hemi and so was my last hemi. they've always trapped high compared to everyone else on DTW. stock I trapped 14.992 at 90.12 mph and a few 15.2's at 89
with just headers and intake i'm at 14.567@93.63 mph. i'm running very rich right now. hopefully i can get it to lean out when i get the front o2 sensor put in (oops. stripped the bung. DOH)

but uhh. nice death :D

(some of y'all might remember the white hemi. it ran a 14.69 @ 93.75 mph with intake ehxaust and programmer)

Monte Carlo SS, a supercharged 6 banger that runs 17s in the 1/4

Cobalt SS, another charged DUD!


Actually I read in a mag where they did a Cobalt SS vs Neon SRT-4 and the Cobalt beat it. I will look for it and post it up.

Monte Carlo SS with a supercharger should be just like a grand prix gtp and those are a lot faster than a 17 1/4 mile. :judge:

Our trucks with engines rated at 285 and 295 flywheel horsepower can hang with the 345 horsepower Hemi in the same truck configuration. That is the funny thing to me. I ran right beside one in my bone stock (down to the paper filter) truck. Both extended cab 2WD. I know he had a very loud exhaust, not sure what else. I guess they must have some major driveline inefficiencies?

Their trucks are supposedly much heavier that ours. I think their RCSB is closer to 5000lbs where ours are about 4500lbs worst case.

Their trucks are supposedly much heavier that ours. I think their RCSB is closer to 5000lbs where ours are about 4500lbs worst case.

Your right according to their website the Reg. Cab weight is 4,976 lbs. and the Quad Cab is 5015 lbs. Seems odd they are showing only 39 lbs. difference between the cab configurations.

Your right according to their website the Reg. Cab weight is 4,976 lbs. and the Quad Cab is 5015 lbs. Seems odd they are showing only 39 lbs. difference between the cab configurations.There has to be something wrong in those numbers.

Personally I'm really not impressed with the SRT-10 Rams. Kinda like Rumble Bee says, I like getting the most of a normal engine. I hope its the fastest truck out there, for a 10cylinder Viper engine and 50 grand (Badass stereo too). My truck is 13 years older, will still beat it from stoplight to stoplight. And cost me 12,500 with 35K miles. I do like where Dodge is going with the SRT department though, those helmets can really move. I do like the Ram's, but like the other guys said, it's the guys driving them, with the "Ya, it's got a Hemi" sticker in the back window.

some of the dodge trucks run better then others......i like it when some people think i'm only a 15 second truck....untill i rape them on the street lol

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I trip out reading yalls' posts, the HEMI is a good motor, and the aftermarket is cranking some good stuff out for them now, its not exactly tweaked to perfection yet, but its coming. Unlike GM, you can to wal-mart buy anything almost performance oriented for GM, readily accessible, use to own them, so I know. But you have to agree, the dodge trucks have came a LONG way since the ealry 90s, and with the introduction of the 5.7 hemi they have some sharp trucks. Then the introduction of the SRT lineup, chevy has nothing at all to compete with it, stock for stock, purchased off the showroom floor.

2004 Dodge Ram RCSB running 2 tenths faster in the 1/4 mile than the 5.3 Silverado RCSB, info from Truckin Magazine.

2004 Dodge Ram SRT 10, fastest pickup truck ever produced.

Dodge Viper, GM has no match for it at all...........

SRT 4 Neon, one of the fastest sport compacts on the road, 13.8 1/4 mile times stock

SRT 6 Crossfire- 400 HP in a 6 banger, ultra light weight car

Magnum R/T HEMI.........13.9 sec 1/4 mile

300 "C" with hemi, 13.8 at a 101 mph bone stock!

SRT 300, last report was a 12.8 in the 1/4 mile bone stock

Charger R/T with HEMI 13.7 100 MPH in the 1/4 mile

AND ALL of the larger Dodge grouped vehicles being RWD

What does Chevy/GM offer for competiton???

The 2005 vette----which stole all the viper looks

the GTO-oversized CAVALIER and butt ugly, even the 2005 models which GM thought the extra 50 HP would generate some more sales, there is still 2004 models that are brand new and unsold all over NC/VA.

the CTS-V CADDY-probably the best bang for the buck car GM offers, other than the vette.

Monte Carlo SS, a supercharged 6 banger that runs 17s in the 1/4

Cobalt SS, another charged DUD!

The SSR, GM designer use to work for DC designed this after his work on the PT cruiser, another DUD from GM!

SS Silverado, a big AWD sport truck, good luck on the 2 WD model!!!

Why is some of you guys/gals have to criticize DC products so bad, you need to take a look at the GM products. The design crew they have now better get unemployed before they break GM and cause enough layoffs to ruin the world. GM has some nice stuff on the road as well and a few new upcoming rides that I hope will put them back in good standings, its in every news article you pick up that GM is heading down and down every day. Its sad the only true sports car that CHEVY has to offer is the vette, I wonder if they see the avg price of a vette being close to $50,000 will make them rethink a new camaro, firebird, T/A or something other than the GTO, that was a big let down. I have nothing against GM at all, we have several here in my family and I have owned them myself, just figured you guys needed some reassurance on the new dodge products currently already on the road.
You were in the truck smokin the doobie right :smokin: You should rethink after all if it werent for other car companys helping Dodge out they would have gone Bankrupt along time ago. Now go smoke another one. :jest:

4950lb's race weight with me in it rolling on 20's, I am dropping the tail gate, the 92lb spare, and the front sway bar which is a good 60lbs. Your right we do trap really slow compared to most other trucks, the front end is too big. Using a programmer to get 500rpm more, you can get 2-2.5mph higher trap.

I haven't been here in a while and I've missed all the Hemi talk fun. I agree about the mentality of some dip shit Dodge boys. Their truck has a Hemi so they think they can't be touched, wrong. I also know that the Ram's are heavy, my 4x2 QC weighs 5240 lbs. When a Hemi Ram owner puts on a CAI and exhaust, he may have actually lost some power if he opened it up to much. The stock intake and exhaust systems on the Hemi Ram's are pretty darn good. What holds them back is the computer, it's TM and ability to learn. IF a CAI or exhaust system does make more power, the PCM will negate it in a short itme from what I've read, it tries to maintain stock performance levels. The 03 Hemi rams now have a Superchips which I here helps quite a bit. I can't wait for Superchips to release the 04 tuner, it's first on my list to get. My truck with just a muffler and partial CAI ran a 15.24 @ 88.22 the last time I went to the track. I don't consider that to bad for a heavy ass truck on heavy ass factory 20's.
Jim

I've raced plent of Hemi's:RCSB, dbl-cab's-from stock to one's with header's, CAI, exhaust, and Superchips...in almost any combo of mods you can imagine. And raced from a stop, 20 roll up to a 55 roll. And NONE of them can stay up with my VHO. I don't have any FI, headers, cam or anything more than what's in my sig. I haven't raced anyone with nitrious yet though!!! I have had one RCSB pull for just about a 1/2 a truck length, but he got the jump on me and has had the most mods of any of the trucks I raced.....but he still lost.
I'd rather push my GM or pull a Ford before I'd even consider a Dodge.

Just my insight on the whole deal.

Every time I'm in my fiance's Prizm I always come across "Meat".

Hop in my truck and I never get $h!t :bang:

Yesterday I was in her car driving down Evans by Denver University.. up on my ass comes some college turd in his VW Golf GTI spoolin' and piping me to get out of the way cause I was only going 50 in a 40, so were the 5 cars infront of me.

I havent come across anything since my HEMI kill back in late 2004 on 17th ave :(

I wish Bandimere had more DOT legal series and events..

TOOO true green, stock I only did a 15.1 at like 87, with the heads and exhaust I have it down to a measly 14.6 at 91, all street trim, seats, 20 inchers and all. I think fatal knows what I really want, but there is just tooooooooooooo many issues with them currently, either one as a matter of fact...LMAO

First off don't take this as hating. :) The Hemi RCSB is faster than a 5.3 RCSB GMC? :confused: You had to put heads and exhaust on your truck, and run 2 tenths and 3.5 mph slower than my GMC. Lord help you if I get more mods than an air intake and a Corsa. I really like the way the Dodges look, but I'm not scared of one with similar mods. :cheers:


Bruce

Hardtop.......what mods did it take for your truck to run 14.4s at 94mph????


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Hardtop.......what mods did it take for your truck to run 14.4s at 94mph????


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UPD Air intake
Corsa Catback.
Eaton posi: Truck came with an open rear. Wouldn't have done this otherwise.
Changed shift points, removed TM in the tow haul mode. Timing tables, and fuel untouched. It's got a bit more in it if I would run 93 octane, but its my daily driver and I run 87 octane in it, thus the stock timing tables. Thats it.

Had a bunch of EFA members see all my runs when I ran this time.

Bruce

First off don't take this as hating. :) The Hemi RCSB is faster than a 5.3 RCSB GMC? :confused: You had to put heads and exhaust on your truck, and run 2 tenths and 3.5 mph slower than my GMC. Lord help you if I get more mods than an air intake and a Corsa. I really like the way the Dodges look, but I'm not scared of one with similar mods. :cheers:


Bruce
all i have is headers and intake running 14.5.. besides. our computer doesn't adjust to well to any "air" mods. hemi tries to detune everything back to stock. not to mention it uses a speed density system to measure air intake, instead of a mass air flow system. so changing the amount of air that comes in or the speed of it really doesn't help.

all i have is headers and intake running 14.5.. besides. our computer doesn't adjust to well to any "air" mods. hemi tries to detune everything back to stock. not to mention it uses a speed density system to measure air intake, instead of a mass air flow system. so changing the amount of air that comes in or the speed of it really doesn't help.

That's a nice time and mph. I could add some timing and fuel, but then I would have to pay for 93 octane. Ran on the stock Generals the truck came with @ 35 psi. I don't have the power you hemi guys have, but my truck is lighter. ! pwr windows, !cruise. Stripper 5.3 with A/C and 3.73's.

Bruce

I trip out reading yalls' posts, the HEMI is a good motor, and the aftermarket is cranking some good stuff out for them now, its not exactly tweaked to perfection yet, but its coming. Unlike GM, you can to wal-mart buy anything almost performance oriented for GM, readily accessible, use to own them, so I know. But you have to agree, the dodge trucks have came a LONG way since the ealry 90s, and with the introduction of the 5.7 hemi they have some sharp trucks. Then the introduction of the SRT lineup, chevy has nothing at all to compete with it, stock for stock, purchased off the showroom floor.

2004 Dodge Ram RCSB running 2 tenths faster in the 1/4 mile than the 5.3 Silverado RCSB, info from Truckin Magazine.

2004 Dodge Ram SRT 10, fastest pickup truck ever produced.

Dodge Viper, GM has no match for it at all...........

SRT 4 Neon, one of the fastest sport compacts on the road, 13.8 1/4 mile times stock

SRT 6 Crossfire- 400 HP in a 6 banger, ultra light weight car

Magnum R/T HEMI.........13.9 sec 1/4 mile

300 "C" with hemi, 13.8 at a 101 mph bone stock!

SRT 300, last report was a 12.8 in the 1/4 mile bone stock

Charger R/T with HEMI 13.7 100 MPH in the 1/4 mile

AND ALL of the larger Dodge grouped vehicles being RWD

What does Chevy/GM offer for competiton???

The 2005 vette----which stole all the viper looks

the GTO-oversized CAVALIER and butt ugly, even the 2005 models which GM thought the extra 50 HP would generate some more sales, there is still 2004 models that are brand new and unsold all over NC/VA.

the CTS-V CADDY-probably the best bang for the buck car GM offers, other than the vette.

Monte Carlo SS, a supercharged 6 banger that runs 17s in the 1/4

Cobalt SS, another charged DUD!

The SSR, GM designer use to work for DC designed this after his work on the PT cruiser, another DUD from GM!

SS Silverado, a big AWD sport truck, good luck on the 2 WD model!!!

Why is some of you guys/gals have to criticize DC products so bad, you need to take a look at the GM products. The design crew they have now better get unemployed before they break GM and cause enough layoffs to ruin the world. GM has some nice stuff on the road as well and a few new upcoming rides that I hope will put them back in good standings, its in every news article you pick up that GM is heading down and down every day. Its sad the only true sports car that CHEVY has to offer is the vette, I wonder if they see the avg price of a vette being close to $50,000 will make them rethink a new camaro, firebird, T/A or something other than the GTO, that was a big let down. I have nothing against GM at all, we have several here in my family and I have owned them myself, just figured you guys needed some reassurance on the new dodge products currently already on the road.

I agree on some of this but:

The 2005 vette----which stole all the viper looks

But please take this one back. There is not one piece that resembles the viper. Not one!

Just have to add a note here guys.... I don't run Hemi777 times but running 13.92 @ 96.20 N/A with 4715 race weight, Homemade CAI and full STOCK exhaust, aftermarket 17's ( they were on my 99 Ram dumped the 20's ) Nitto 450's 275/50R's, spring clamps and the Superchips crap programmer..... not a lot of mods here to make it into the 13's and I could go faster if I wanted to pull the exhaust off and run open like 777.... ahh to much trouble. will be in the 12's soon with a small shot...

TJ

I really need to get down to sealevel and see what my real times are :(

http://www.supermotors.org/vehicles/calculators/index.php

You'd be running 13.74 at sea level... Note calculators are only accurate if your running N/A, Turbo's and Superchargers don't suffer the same loses.

Cool thanks Toe

I gotta get into a new field of work so I can move. The motorsport world here is so small, I don't think our altitude helps either. Gotta go where I can have more fun with my hobby ;)

so when are the RC RAM Hemi's going to run 12's N/A.

so when are the RC RAM Hemi's going to run 12's N/A.
That just depends on when we can get a real tuner or HemiEdit....



TJ

GM trucks are not going to run 12s N/A either without major motor change ups like cam swaps and such.

Look at the times the Rams are running and 98% don't even have higher tsall converters or significant weight reduction mods.

knocking another second off my truck N/A may be a tall order indeed.. I know guys that claim .4 sec with the addition of headers and a good exhaust. Perhaps another .2 with the installation of the right camshaft. I still think a good tuner would be worth another .2 but that is vaporware right now. We still have NO alternative aftermarket intake manifolds. Some of the guys are playing with the APS converters but we still have no hard data that says this it worth even a tenth.
Serious weight reduction from my truck would make it something I would not want to drive on a daily basis. It is my daily driver. I figure that the headers, exhaust, & cam swap IF they perform as hoped I would still have to drop 400 lbs off my truck to get there.... just don't see where it would come off at.
But you can bet I will be working on it with the idea of still maintaining a street truck.... or until a good supercharger comes up.... ( gonna have to see 500 rwhp on a kit before I buy )

TJ

Kinda surprised that they ahven't come out with anything good for the Ram's yet, especially supercharger. Whipple has an 05 F-150 Charger already, but no Ram? Kinda weird. I see about 2-3 Hemi's here for every 1 F-150.

Kinda surprised that they ahven't come out with anything good for the Ram's yet, especially supercharger. Whipple has an 05 F-150 Charger already, but no Ram? Kinda weird. I see about 2-3 Hemi's here for every 1 F-150.

Ya, whipple seems to really give their all for the Ford products, but slack a little on the others. At least there makin somebody happy.

GM trucks are not going to run 12s N/A either without major motor change ups like cam swaps and such.

Look at the times the Rams are running and 98% don't even have higher tsall converters or significant weight reduction mods.

True, GM trucks wont run 12's without cam or converters, but what truck will run 12's n/a without that???

ANd the times they are running are decent, i'd expect more though. RC 6.0 chevy converts with the lq4's with minimal mods run better times than that.. but thats a different subject.

I still can't figuire out why only very few scsb Hemi's break into the the 13's with minimal mods while most don't respond this well. These trucks seem to be very inconsistent.

First off don't take this as hating. :) The Hemi RCSB is faster than a 5.3 RCSB GMC? :confused: You had to put heads and exhaust on your truck, and run 2 tenths and 3.5 mph slower than my GMC. Lord help you if I get more mods than an air intake and a Corsa. I really like the way the Dodges look, but I'm not scared of one with similar mods. :cheers:


Bruce


And you shouldn't be...........its all in fun and sportsmanship man, hell at the track I help everybody. Even the ford and chevy guys, a fast truck is a fast truck, reguardless. I understand the "I gotta HEMI" complex alot of the guys here talk about, its bad when even a dodge owner sees it himself....LMAO But hey Bruce, I gotta hemi so get out of the way man...........LMAO :hail: :hail: :hail:

I'll say one thing and then move along. It's nice to see you truck guys getting along so well across the brands. It's a shame the car guys aren't more like that.

Well, I beat a stock Quad cab hemi with my crew cab Sierra a while ago. I think I had like intake and exhaust. It was kinda close. But I have gotten slapped by a few too. There is one Reg Cab Hemi that goes out to HRP thats beaten me several times. Its a silver one. Don't know who it is or what he's got but it runs good. Obviously the regular cab ones seem to run good and they also seem to respond well to mods, just me opinion. I'd still like to get a straight up run with one now with my mods. I think traction would be the killer for me now. lol.

And ya know, it is nice to see the Dodge and GM boys able to play nicely together in here. lol

Well, I beat a stock Quad cab hemi with my crew cab Sierra a while ago. I think I had like intake and exhaust. It was kinda close. But I have gotten slapped by a few too. There is one Reg Cab Hemi that goes out to HRP thats beaten me several times. Its a silver one. Don't know who it is or what he's got but it runs good. Obviously the regular cab ones seem to run good and they also seem to respond well to mods, just me opinion. I'd still like to get a straight up run with one now with my mods. I think traction would be the killer for me now. lol.

And ya know, it is nice to see the Dodge and GM boys able to play nicely together in here. lol

hmmmm did it say V-6 on the front fender??? if so then that would be HemiTman on the board here... but alas he claims that he put his truck back stock and retired from racing... I think he is up to no good, perhaps we will see him out there later...
I have a black RSCB out there on a fairly regular basis as well...

TJ

I'm not sure if it had a V-6 emblem on it or not. I know its a pretty tall guy that drives it. The only 2 I have seen out there was the silver reg cab and another white one.

What was HemiTman Running, because that screen name does sound familiar.

I'm not sure if it had a V-6 emblem on it or not. I know its a pretty tall guy that drives it. The only 2 I have seen out there was the silver reg cab and another white one.

What was HemiTman Running, because that screen name does sound familiar.

The Tall guy's name is Ken and he is known on DTW as RedRaiderHemi and he has run 14.20's at HRP on the stock 20's! That is the fastest time I have know for those 82 lbs each wheels and tires.
HemiTman has a Stripper Hemi ( his is also silver )that he put a V-6 emblem on the fender.. quite the card he is.. he had paired his truck down to 4250 lbs and has run 13.80's with no power adders... I still think he is up to no good... :jest:

TJ

The Tall guy's name is Ken and he is known on DTW as RedRaiderHemi and he has run 14.20's at HRP on the stock 20's! That is the fastest time I have know for those 82 lbs each wheels and tires.
HemiTman has a Stripper Hemi ( his is also silver )that he put a V-6 emblem on the fender.. quite the card he is.. he had paired his truck down to 4250 lbs and has run 13.80's with no power adders... I still think he is up to no good... :jest:

TJ
14.2 with 20's? hmm i need to go the track now that my rich/misfire condition is fixed... i'm hoping for low 14's

(yes, with the o2 sensor dangling not only was it running rich, it was misfiring.. atleast that's the code it threw!!!!!)

Just thought I would bring this back up to the top! :lurk:

You talk about the guys that drive a Dodge...but look in the mirror! Chevy owners are all pimply punk ricers in a truck! (or at least that is what is said on Dodge forums) :judge:

It's funny how all the Dodges and Fords are slow in a Chevy forum, and vice versa in a Dodge or Ford forum! :eyes:

But, when I had a 4 door Hemi with 20's, I went 15.18 BONE STOCK and never got beat by a 4 door (never got a chance to run a SS though) Ford or Chevy and beat over half of the reg cabs (course, I assume they were bone stock). I guess all of you guys with bone stock trucks just don't live where I live. :confused:

Anyways...cheers all! Just poppin in!

You will be hard pressed to find a bone stock truck on this site.

Well, my point is, how can you compare (or be proud) that a modded (SC nonetheless) truck can beat a bone stock one? but I digress...

Yeah I feel you there, that does make sense but still its a 5.7 vrs 5.3, the dodge comes stock with 3.93's, and larger exhaust! Although it doesnt matter cause we have to mod to get that so I see where you're coming from, but when all bolt ons, aside from turbo's and SC, are the same on both or really all trucks the chevy's usually come out on top. And Ford people have absolutly no room to talk. I have an EC and didnt start modding till I started this site and before then I'd race 5.4 RCSB ford trucks and spank them bad!!! The only thing ford has is a SC vehicle, hell all there "DECENT" or "GOOD" HP and TRQ vehicles come with SC.

The hemi trucks are badass they run great but the engine is wrapped up in a crappy dodge shell. DC products are getting alot better but in my families experience they have been junk just my personal opinion.

They come stock with 3.55 gears on 17" rims. The 3.91's are only with the 20" rims and are an option. The exhaust is a single 3". Is that bigger than a Chevy?

Ohh yeah??

Well my dad can beat up your dad! He's a ninja, in the mofia and a Green Beret!

They come stock with 3.55 gears on 17" rims. The 3.91's are only with the 20" rims and are an option. The exhaust is a single 3". Is that bigger than a Chevy?

See we come stock with 3.42's with 3.73's being the upgrade! The exhaust is barely 2.5 inches, my gibson is now 3". Dont get me wrong, dodge is still better than most trucks. I can honestly say if I didnt have this truck, and I didnt know where I wanted to go, I would at least think about a dodge and never a Ford. Dodge is OK in my book :nod:

My 2c

Before I got this truck, I almost drove home a scsb Hemi sport (black with chrome 20s :drool: ). Ended up with this truck thanks to a better deal, the exact color I wanted, and the fact that it had the up-level v8, which consistently gives me 20 mpg on the highway. I've got nothing against Hemis, just the few punkasses who think their truck is cut from pure gold. :eyes: That goes for all makes too, btw

I think the point of the story is that Dodge guys think the Hemi is so badass it can beat any other truck. They forget that not everyone is running around in a stock truck. Most of the guys on this site intentionally leave their trucks looking stock just for that reason. If you put a s/c, headers, stall, blah blah blah on a 5.7L Hemi, I’m sure the outcome would be a little different. As the saying goes there’s “No replacement for displacement”. But you have to admit that when a “HEMI” gets spanked by a “stock looking” Chevy Silverado, it’s a good story. The Hemi engine alone does not make it a fast truck. Even with the 20” Rumble Bee / Hemi decals plastered all over it.

Ohh yeah??

Well my dad can beat up your dad! He's a ninja, in the mofia and a Green Beret!

:D

I think the point of the story is that Dodge guys think the Hemi is so badass it can beat any other truck.

You are incorrect....the point of the story is that F8L's dad is a Badmofo!

:D



You are incorrect....the point of the story is that F8L's dad is a Badmofo!


LMAO!!!

Actually he's a drunk that can barely hold a job. I've only seen him once in 12yrs or so. Hahaha

I'm not sweating the Hemi though. Not 1 has beat my times in the Z71 yet and I doubt one will be competition for the RCSB. It's all about run what ya brung and hope ya brung enough.... I was just unlucky in that I didn't bring enough in the story at the beggining of this thread. :p

I just wish I could get a Hemi to race me my truck looks stock minus a small sticker on the back window of a local engine builder and you cant see my tailpipe.

The only ones who want to race and the damn ricers and I dont even waste gas on them. :judge: :judge: :judge:

Maybe its the lope uummm.. I mean clogged injector :devil:

There are fast trucks of all makes. And I know what you mean about some "Hemi owners that think they have the fastest stuff out there"...there are always a few that ruin it for everyone! Us Dodge guys are just happy that they DC finally gave us a decent hp vehicle. Remember, before the Hemi, all we had was the R/T Dakota at 250 hp at 4200 lbs. Now we have the Hemi trucks, SRT-10 trucks, SRT-8 300C (in which one ran 12.99 bone stock with less than 1000 miles), Hemi Charger and Charger SRT-8.

Ford will no longer have the L and the Mustang is thier last hope.

Chevy is really not doing too much with thier pony cars, except for the 'Vette.

There are fast trucks of all makes. And I know what you mean about some "Hemi owners that think they have the fastest stuff out there"...there are always a few that ruin it for everyone! Us Dodge guys are just happy that they DC finally gave us a decent hp vehicle. Remember, before the Hemi, all we had was the R/T Dakota at 250 hp at 4200 lbs. Now we have the Hemi trucks, SRT-10 trucks, SRT-8 300C (in which one ran 12.99 bone stock with less than 1000 miles), Hemi Charger and Charger SRT-8.

Ford will no longer have the L and the Mustang is thier last hope.

Chevy is really not doing too much with thier pony cars, except for the 'Vette.


You really like to talk crap don't you? Nice job getting the other thread locked, you were starting to make me laugh too. :jest:

You really like to talk crap don't you? Nice job getting the other thread locked, you were starting to make me laugh too. :jest:

I will try not to get this one locked too! :jest: I like GM, I like GM, I like GM! :drive:

You really like to talk crap don't you? Nice job getting the other thread locked, you were starting to make me laugh too. :jest:
hes not talking crap, seems reasonable with what he is saying.

At least you're still here. I got banned from DTW for stating opinions. LOL

Well, I do know several of the members here in person and I really don't just try to cause problems (hehe, maybe some controversy and something to talk about).

The boys at DTW can get a little uptight sometimes....too bad, because it's competition that makes this fun!

too bad, because it's competition that makes this fun!

Agreed!

Go Republicans!!!! Err. I mean GM! j/k

Competition often brings out the worst in people just as easily :(

I will try not to get this one locked too! :jest: I like GM, I like GM, I like GM! :drive:

Oh man! LMAO!! :jest: :jest:

I like dodge but chevy should of brought this beast a long time ago!! Then we wouldve of had some truck to brag about!

click the link:http://www.pickuptruck.com/html/stories/gmtoys/toys3.html

I will try not to get this one locked too! :jest: I like GM, I like GM, I like GM! :drive:

That's better!















J/K :jest:

I think it's safe to say that Dodge does give a good bang for your buck with the HEMI Ram... any truck that can run low 15's stock (n/a of course) is quick- and yes we GM faithful have to mod ours to compete, but as the old saying goes "RUN WHAT YA BRUNG!" Hell, Rhino 79 had an ol' TBI GMC with only bolt-on's that ran high 14's! However it has sadly departed this world... :cry:

OOPS I think I got the "new SRT_10" board shut down... sorry I was being sarcastic in my post on that board- anyways back to the matter at hand!

I dont mean to start the crap talking back up BUT...ha ha.....I dont see why all of the dodge guys are comparing thier double cabs to 5.3 powered trucks.....what about the VHO....there are people on this website that run mid 14's all day long with the same minimal mods as the dodge guys.....whats up with this 3.92 gearing for the big 20 inch trucks only.....do they make RCSB "HEMI's" without the 20's on them (I've never seen one without the 20'...so I dunno)? To ME that whole argument with the gearing is out the window because the RCSB HEMI's all run 3.92's......OR MOST of them do....so you really cant compare the RCSB silverado with a 5.3 to a hemi ram WITHOUT a few mods....YOU CAN....ha ha....its good for arguing....but the hemi will win stock for stock until GM makes a RCSB with an LQ9 under the hood with a decent tranny behind it and some decent gears..........TRUCK trend just tested the 2wd version of the silverado SS and ran 15.1's......with the 20's....NOT BROKEN IN.... and weight of 5023 pounds....and acording to dodge's web site the Quad cab ram weighs 5015 pounds....BY THE NUMBERS.....its about the same weight so there shouldnt be any complaining from the dodge boys about wieght...OR TIRE SIZE...the silverado is faster...and it isnt shaped like a slip on VAN's shoe....ha ha...just kidding
Why dont some of the people on this web site that have an LQ9 in a RCSB speak up and post some of thier stock numbers from when the did their engine swap.....I bet thier numbers are in the 14's.....WITHOUT 3.90 gears or higher...cam,CAI,Headers,good tune...it would run in the 13's all day long....its probrably overkill on the parts list for 13's on a LQ9 powered RCSB...mid 13's with a totaly streetable N/A truck.....that doesnt look like a house slipper....thats alright in my book....GM just needs to build it....

Oh boy, I see this thread getting locked real soon :jest:

Hopefully, this won't get locked if everyone stays civilized!

He makes a valid argument. You can get the Dodge either RC or QC with the standard 17" rims, but you will get 3.55 gearing. If you option for the 20's you will get 3.91. That is the only way.

The weight published of the QC seems about right because mine weighed 5240 with me in it, 1/4 tank of gas and 20's.

Just curious, how much does a RC, standard option GM go for? QC?

I paid $25k ttl back on Dec 2002 for mine. It was loaded (not leather) with 20's. I think I got a good price then because that truck runs about $30k ttl now. You can get a RC with 17's and basics for about $18 ttl.

I won't be replying for the rest of the day (some will be happy with that! :) ) because of meetings/conferences.

Ya'll have a good one! :engarde: