Orange GTX RCSB Hemi Powered Ram. It is a guy from work but I do not know who. Its a very large company. We got off work and I lined up next to him at a dual left hand turn lanes. We cross the busy street and park in the median waiting to turn left, we were side by side. The last car flys by and we both take off. He squeels around his corner. I take off slower since I am on the inside. He punches it once he got straight, he has exhaust so his punch was obvious. So I punch it and do a mini fish thanks to this damn Nelson tune. We were even for only a split second. In first gear he was half a truck back. When I hit second my truck just took off. I did not even top out second and I had put 4 to 6 lengths on him. After that he just kind of layed back in traffic the rest of the way.

So whats the deal? Both trucks are rated at 345hp. His truck was a RC and mine is an EC. He has at least exhaust, who knows what else. My truck is completly stock except for a Nelson Tune.

Nice Kill.

good kill.all that glamor doesnt make em run any better...

Hey, nice to see you're enjoying the tune!
I love hearing stories like that. I'm sure you upset that guy quite a bit, lol.

He probably wasn't flooring it :confused:

good kill,

sweet , hemi slow

Good kill :thumb: Yea those Hemi's are slow.

:stupid:

So whats the deal? Both trucks are rated at 345hp. His truck was a RC and mine is an EC. He has at least exhaust, who knows what else. My truck is completly stock except for a Nelson Tune.
I think you said it right there, Nelson Tune! A reg cab Dodge weighs about the same as an ext cab GM truck about 4800-4900 lbs, my QC 4x2 Dodge weighs 5240 lbs.. The GM 345 hp 6.0L is putting more of that power to the ground than the Dodge 345 hp 5.7L because of the severe Torque Management on the Dodge trucks. How much HP & TQ did Allen say the tune would give you, 20-30 hp and 20-30 tq? Were the shifts extended higher in the rpm range? Are your shifts now faster and firmer? Also, how much TM was removed to put even more of that power to the ground? I've seen posts where a custom tune reduces a 1/4 time by .5 seconds, so if the two trucks would be even if stock, then you are now a 1/2 a second faster, that's quite a bit. The Dodge may have an exhaust but it probably didn't give him anymore power, just more noise. The Dodge factory is very good from reports I've read, just not loud and alot of guys want more noise. My number one want is a custom tune for my truck but NO ONE does them for the Dodge's. The DC tuning isn't performance oriented at all, they really hold that Hemi engine back with tuning and TM.
I'm not saying as an excuse, just a reason. A kill is a kill, Good Kill!
Jim

Nice.

I had Bumble Bee (yes, I know) give me a real hard time about a month or so back. We were dead even from a ~50 roll. (Before rockers, before Crane tuning.)

I went looking for the person on the Dodge sites, but never found him.

I think you said it right there, Nelson Tune! A reg cab Dodge weighs about the same as an ext cab GM truck about 4800-4900 lbs, my QC 4x2 Dodge weighs 5240 lbs.. The GM 345 hp 6.0L is putting more of that power to the ground than the Dodge 345 hp 5.7L because of the severe Torque Management on the Dodge trucks. How much HP & TQ did Allen say the tune would give you, 20-30 hp and 20-30 tq? Were the shifts extended higher in the rpm range? Are your shifts now faster and firmer? Also, how much TM was removed to put even more of that power to the ground? I've seen posts where a custom tune reduces a 1/4 time by .5 seconds, so if the two trucks would be even if stock, then you are now a 1/2 a second faster, that's quite a bit. The Dodge may have an exhaust but it probably didn't give him anymore power, just more noise. The Dodge factory is very good from reports I've read, just not loud and alot of guys want more noise. My number one want is a custom tune for my truck but NO ONE does them for the Dodge's. The DC tuning isn't performance oriented at all, they really hold that Hemi engine back with tuning and TM.
I'm not saying as an excuse, just a reason. A kill is a kill, Good Kill!
Jim
WELL IM NOT CALLING YOU A LIAR, BUT A RCSB 2WD HEMI WEIGHS 4600 #'S WITH NO ONE IN IT AND A 1/4 TANK OF GAS. I KNOW THIS BECAUSE THERE WERE TWO AT THE TRACK THE OTHER DAY AND I SAW THEM WEIGH THEM 1 WAS 4780 AND THE OTHER WAS 4800 WITH THE GUYS IN THEM. SO THEY ARE AT LEAST 4600 WITH NO ONE IN IT.

Orange GTX RCSB Hemi Powered Ram. It is a guy from work but I do not know who. Its a very large company. We got off work and I lined up next to him at a dual left hand turn lanes. We cross the busy street and park in the median waiting to turn left, we were side by side. The last car flys by and we both take off. He squeels around his corner. I take off slower since I am on the inside. He punches it once he got straight, he has exhaust so his punch was obvious. So I punch it and do a mini fish thanks to this damn Nelson tune. We were even for only a split second. In first gear he was half a truck back. When I hit second my truck just took off. I did not even top out second and I had put 4 to 6 lengths on him. After that he just kind of layed back in traffic the rest of the way.

So whats the deal? Both trucks are rated at 345hp. His truck was a RC and mine is an EC. He has at least exhaust, who knows what else. My truck is completly stock except for a Nelson Tune.

The deal is he brought a knife to a gun fight,just think apples to apples,if he has a 2x4 quadcab with the best tune availible for it,you would have slaughtered him. both rated at 345HP ,i think the Gm horseys are just bigger.

good kill !!!

2 years of hemi bullshit have past when will it end , guys need to undersatand chevy is better.

good kill!!!

sweet , hemi slow


5.3 racer16 what is your truck running???? and what mods????

5.3 racer16 what is your truck running???? and what mods????Yeah I'd like to know that too..... :jest: :jest: :jest:

99 Black silverado 5.3 RCSB 3.73 G80 K&N FIPK E-FANS magnaflow catback


2002 Lightning Red

13.4 stock Gtech time
I guess it depends if you're looking at the '99 Silverado or '02 L...
:devil: :jest: (Just messin' with ya...:))

Nice kill Round Rock TA.

Yeah I'd like to know that too..... :jest: :jest: :jest:
i think we would all like to see proof of what he has. he talks alot BUT no one has seen anything! :engarde: :jest:

5.3 racer16 what is your truck running???? and what mods????
Well the 99 5.3L were rated at 270 hp and 315 tq, and are considered the slowest of the GEN III trucks. Unless he's got more than e-fans, intake and exhaust, I'd say mid 15's, maybe? I noticed he shows his g-tech time for the Lightning but not for the Silverado, which you know he used the G-tech on too!
Jim

i don't think gm is better than dodge. or vice versa. i have always been a gm man and will stay that way. i won't call any brand a pos. there are some high points and low points on every make and model. the fact of the matter is we have a aftermarket that supports our motors and they have a computer that don't like mods. i won't say they don't have an aftermarket cause i feel that the dodges do.

now lets look towards the future, when the new gm truck comes out. it may be a 14.5 sec factory truck. great. guess what, dodge guys are gonna have their stuff figured out. then we are gonna be chasing their times down. then guess what, the new dodge will come out and they are gonna be chasing our times down cause we figured our trucks out.

you see my point. this is a cycle. forever going on.

A member on DTW said he actually went down to the Superchips complex, lives only five mintues away and talked to the techs. He was there because the SC programmer he has for his 03 Hemi Ram wasn't working, and they fixed it for him. He said he actually talked to the lead tech trying to decifer the DC programming for the 04/05 Hemi Rams. The tech told him the they are held back A LOT because to TM and that the 05 are faster than the 04 right from the factory. Something about better tuning and less TM because DC figured out the driveline will take a little more power, no warranty claims. The tech also told him the 04's Hemi owners are really going to like the Superchips when it comes out, aggresive tuning and reduced TM. Don't know if it's true or not, I hope it is, I want a Superchips or some kind of prgorammer.
Jim