View Full Version : Toyo Proxes ST or Nitto NT-404 or Kumho Ecsta STX


Boosted 6.0
09-01-2004, 11:47 AM
Looking to replace my 305/45/22 Toyo Proxes. The tires are all about the same price (give or take $50). Is there a major difference between the three? Any suggestions?

revolution
09-01-2004, 12:52 PM
i like the firestone indy 500s

Boosted 6.0
09-01-2004, 12:54 PM
Do they make 22" Indy's?

Mr. Sandog
09-01-2004, 01:19 PM
I did lots of research and got the Kumhos. I haven't been disappointed.

01 Silverado
09-01-2004, 01:27 PM
Nitto 404's all the way! They are awesome and you can get them cheap by talking to Todd at Discounttiredirect.com

Boosted 6.0
09-01-2004, 01:51 PM
has anyone tried both Nitto's and Kumho's? The rubber doesn't need to be too soft, I have awd and I would prefer a tire that last a little longer. I only got 23K out of my Toyos. How much did you get your Nitto's for?

Bonedog
09-01-2004, 02:23 PM
My vote is for the Nitto 404's 15K miles on em and not a complaint. Good ride characteristics, excellent wet traction, makes the truck track down the interstate awsome. Have taken the truck to 135 (on GPS) and had no worries. Thats a 6000lb'er and felt confident.

tooquick2beslo
09-01-2004, 07:49 PM
If you have alot of HP dont get the Kuhmos. I had them and traction sucked. I could spin them for days. It would probably be a good tire for someone with not alot of hp or someone who was just using them for ride quality.

04BlackSilverado
09-01-2004, 08:02 PM
I had those Kuhmos on my 88 GMC, It had a worn out 350 and I had the 454 SS chrome rims with them on. I think like 9" wide??? not sure but I could smoke those bastards sumtin fierce :burn: Traction SUCKED!!!

Mr. Sandog
09-01-2004, 09:29 PM
Yeah, I'm sure the Nittos are much better for traction if you have torque issues...I don't, only 350 RWHP/380 RWTQ on 5800 lb truck with stock stall, a five link, and 305/50's equals never getting rubber unless I'm turning the corner... :|

BigKID
09-02-2004, 10:29 AM
I have been pleased with the two sets of 404's I have had. My current set of 404 are lasting alot longer than the Yokohamas of the same size I previously had.

revolution
09-02-2004, 11:50 AM
Do they make 22" Indy's?


oops, no - i thought you were looking for a stocker replacement :emb:

Tokez420
09-02-2004, 05:36 PM
u only got 23k out the proxes :(

2000_Silverado_SS
09-02-2004, 05:41 PM
nitto all the way

gcooper
09-02-2004, 05:45 PM
I got about 42,000 outta my proxes so you must like to burn out. Course they were pretty much bald when i changed them out

Boosted 6.0
09-02-2004, 05:49 PM
u only got 23k out the proxes :(

I know, and thats with rotating them every 6K - 8K miles, balancing them a couple times and awd. Toyo rubber is pretty soft and the road temp is probably at least 150 - 200* here during the summer, I lay very visible tire patterns everywhere. Plus I do take my rig up on some rugged trails. I beat it up pretty good last weekend out camping & scouting for some hunting spots. Not too good for street tires.

The tires lasted a little over a year.

Mr. Sandog
09-02-2004, 08:56 PM
That's the trade-off for stickiness - faster tread wear. You won't get ultra-stickiness and longevity both in one tire. The Nittos were an option for me, I absolutely knew that they would handle better than the Kumhos, but driving the way I drive in the corners, I knew I would be replacing them right about now (@20,000 mi) or sooner. With the Kumhos, I've got another 20-25K left in them. They've been able to take everything I've been able to throw at them, and I'm happy with the purchase.

BadAssChevy327
03-05-2006, 06:00 PM
i had nt 404's on my old truck and wore one tire out within 2 months almost . good traction but in my case wore really bad after track use and street racing . i have kumho's on my new truck now and there awesome . i mean ive only had them for a little over a week but i gave them a good break in and the wear is unnoticable like the nittos were .

rippedcamel
03-05-2006, 06:49 PM
I don't know what defects you must have all gotten. But I purchased Centerline 20's and put Kumho Ecsta's on them (switching from the stock 16's and General Americraps). I used to sit and spin non stop with the americraps, and I would have to almost come to a stop when I turn otherwise the back end would kick out. Ever since I added the Kumho's I can floor it with my 5.3 and they barely chirp! I can take turns that I used to take at 15mph now at 45mph! Not only that but if you do some research on Tirerack.com you'll notice that all other comparable tires to the Kumho's didn't even get half the positive responses. And they all cost almost double the price!

Also on a side note....My wife bought a pair of Kumho Ecsta's for her bimmer and had the same results as me. Don't waste your money on the hype of the better known brands.

BadAssChevy327
03-05-2006, 10:25 PM
ya with the kumho's turns i use to swing sideways through now it spins and kicks
TM lol and shifts into second . so i know its hookin now haha

rippedcamel
03-06-2006, 01:10 AM
ya with the kumho's turns i use to swing sideways through now it spins and kicks
TM lol and shifts into second . so i know its hookin now haha

I'm confused are you saying the kumho's are what you have now, or what you used to have?

Green Thunder
03-06-2006, 07:02 PM
Ive tried the Nittos and the Proxes.. Didnt like the Nitto's traction.. Proxes have much better traction in my case, however I did go to a bigger tire when I went Proxes.. In your case if traction isn't an issue the Nitto's would be fine, but if traction were an issue Proxes hands down in my book..

BadAssChevy327
03-15-2006, 05:53 PM
whoops sorry dude . what i meant was before with the stock generals id swing corners all the time and just spin through them in first . now with these kumho's ill hit the corner and it will start to spin then just hook and the computer will shift the truck into second . which is TM so i know its hookin up now . and drivin in the rain is so much better

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